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    BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    My Friend and i were talking about morphs.
    And he asked me what would happen if you had a super form(BEL) breed with a BUMBLE BEE??

    i was stumped, i understand genetics to a point but i dont know about this one.

    I was thinking we would get some lessers, mojaves, pastels ? something along those lines.

    Also he was wondering what would you get if you bred a BEL with Another BEL.

    i told him from what i understand since its a super morph, it will produce all BEL...?

    but now im not sure LOL. im still new to understanding the bigger Genetics.
    any help would be appreciated

    Thanks!!

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    If you bred a BEL (i'm gonna assume its a mojave x mojave BEL) with a bumble bee you would get (to my understanding, at least) pastel mojaves and spider mojaves. I think you may also be able to get a pastel mojave spider, but idk for sure.

    And yes a BEL x BEL would get all BEL offspring, I believe.

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    Quote Originally Posted by alittleFREE View Post
    If you bred a BEL (i'm gonna assume its a mojave x mojave BEL) with a bumble bee you would get (to my understanding, at least) pastel mojaves and spider mojaves. I think you may also be able to get a pastel mojave spider, but idk for sure.
    Yup, except you forgot the "bad odds" possibility! (Regular 'ol mojave!)

    Super mojave x bumblebee = 25% chance of any of the following: mojaves, pastaves (pastel mojaves), spider mojaves, mojave bees (pastel spider mojave). All equally possible.

    If it was a lesser x mojave BEL bred to a bumblebee, you would have a 12.5% chance of: lessers, mojaves, pastaves, pastel lessers, mojave spiders, lesserbees, mojave bees and queenebees (pastel lesser spider). All equally possible.

    BEL x BEL can throw only BELs (although if it was a mojave x lesser to another mojave x lesser, some would be "super mojaves" and therefore have "dirty" heads, some would be clean mojave x lessers w/o "bug eyes," and some would be "super lessers" which apparently may have bug eyes).

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    That makes my head hurt.
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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    Thanks !!!

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    BEL Lesser/Lesser to a bumblebee would give 25% lesser, pastel lesser, kingpin, emperor pin doesn't it ?

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    Quote Originally Posted by JibbaJabba View Post
    BEL Lesser/Lesser to a bumblebee would give 25% lesser, pastel lesser, kingpin, emperor pin doesn't it ?
    No, Bumblebee is a pastel spider, not a pastel pinstripe.

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    Quote Originally Posted by alittleFREE View Post
    No, Bumblebee is a pastel spider, not a pastel pinstripe.
    *goes back reading Berry's book*

    Man .. so many wrong informations out there ... that doesn't make it easier

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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    Here is a genetic wizard. I play with it all the time.

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/


    MALE: Super Mojave
    FEMALE: Bumble Bee


    25%: Mojave
    25%: Mojave, Pastel
    25%: Mojave, Spider
    25%: Mojave, Pastel, Spider

    0.2 Pied, 0.1 Pastel, 0.1 Blonde Pastel, 0.1 Albino, 1.0 Pinstripe, 1.1 Lesser Platium, 1.0 Pastel Het Pied, 1.2 DH for VPI Snow(Albino/Axanthic), 1.0 VPI Snow, 0.1 Caramel 66% Ghost, 0.2 Het Ghost, 0.1 Blonde Pastel Het Ghost, 1.1 Pastel Ghost, 0.2 Black Pastel Het Pied, 1.0 G-Stripe, 0.1 Het G-Stripe, 0.1 Spinner, 1.1 Bumble Bee, 1.1 Honey Bee, 0.1 Pinstripe Het Ghost, 0.1 Russo BEL, 1.0 Clown Ph Ghost, 0.1 Ghost Ph Clown, 0.1 Humble Bee, 1.0 Sugar, 1.0 Black Pastel Het Albino, 0.1 Pinstripe Het Axanthic, 0.1 Butter,


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    Re: BEL x BUMBLEBEE

    Quote Originally Posted by JibbaJabba View Post
    BEL Lesser/Lesser to a bumblebee would give 25% lesser, pastel lesser, kingpin, emperor pin doesn't it ?


    I Dont think so on the King pin, emperor Pin .. No Pin stripe in a bumble bee..

    if you had a spinner or spinner blast you would have a shot...

    MALE: Super Mojave
    FEMALE: Spinner Blast


    12.5%: Mojave
    12.5%: Mojave, Pastel
    12.5%: Mojave, Spider
    12.5%: Mojave, Pinstripe
    12.5%: Mojave, Pinstripe, Spider
    12.5%: Mojave, Pastel, Pinstripe
    12.5%: Mojave, Pastel, Spider
    12.5%: Mojave, Pastel, Pinstripe, Spider

    0.2 Pied, 0.1 Pastel, 0.1 Blonde Pastel, 0.1 Albino, 1.0 Pinstripe, 1.1 Lesser Platium, 1.0 Pastel Het Pied, 1.2 DH for VPI Snow(Albino/Axanthic), 1.0 VPI Snow, 0.1 Caramel 66% Ghost, 0.2 Het Ghost, 0.1 Blonde Pastel Het Ghost, 1.1 Pastel Ghost, 0.2 Black Pastel Het Pied, 1.0 G-Stripe, 0.1 Het G-Stripe, 0.1 Spinner, 1.1 Bumble Bee, 1.1 Honey Bee, 0.1 Pinstripe Het Ghost, 0.1 Russo BEL, 1.0 Clown Ph Ghost, 0.1 Ghost Ph Clown, 0.1 Humble Bee, 1.0 Sugar, 1.0 Black Pastel Het Albino, 0.1 Pinstripe Het Axanthic, 0.1 Butter,


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