My next snake is deffinately a corn. Need some info&advice

[LP.]

As the title says, my next snake is definately a corn. Possibly 2, but I doubt it.

I really like the Anerythristics, Lavenders, Ambers, Blizzards, Ghosts, Opals, and Snows, how do their colours change/look from hatchlings to adults?

This will most likely be a personal pet. Do I have to brumate or hibernate it? Would I have to do either if I decided to breed?

I would probably keep this snake in a terrarium unless I decide to get more then one, then I would keep in tubs. What size terrarium should I start a hatchling off in, and what do you suggest I have with the enclosure? Hides, decor, 3 sides covered, etc? And if I keep in a terrarium, how often would I upsize the size? (I highly doubt I will just keep one, especially with terrariums. But just incase)

I know the temperatures, but kind of clueless about the humidity. What do you guys suggest for humidity?

This is something I somewhat "worried" (?) about. Feeding. I know they can eat mice their whole lives, but what do you suggest the prey size is for the snake? Same size width, 2-3x the size of the head, 10% or so of the body weight? I just go by the thickest part of the girth for my ball pythons.

This is all I could think of asking. Any advice you guys could include ontop of this would be excellent and greatly appreciated though.

[CoolioTiffany]

You can keep the hatchling in a 10 gallon tank which will last it some time, then as it outgrows it you can switch it over to a 20 gallon. I would say 20 gallon is the minimum you want for an adult, but 30-40 gallon is more appropriate.

As for cage items, I like using those exo-terra caves for hides, they work awesome for any snake I have. I use it for one of my boas, one of the BPs and for one of my Bloods. Anything works really, but try to get more secure hides with only one entrance. It doesn't have to be tight-fitting, but not incredibly large either. Two identical hides for both ends of the enclosure (one on warm end, one on cool end).

For bedding, I like using aspen bedding for colubrids. But, it's totally up to you. You can also use cypress mulch which is OK to say the least, newspaper, papertowels, sani-chips, or coco fiber (comes in a block, use warm water to break it apart).

Other cage items is your choice, you can put fake plants or logs around the enclosure to make it look nicer and more presentable (which can go along with the more natural looking bedding such as cypress mulch or coco fiber).

I've never necessarily had a problem with not covering 3 sides of the enclosure, every corn I've had and every corn I've cared for has normally eaten. Every corn I've personally had would have no problem eating and not much stress even though I never covered 3 sides of the enclosure. I believe Ball pythons get more stressed out leading to covering 3 sides of the enclosure to make them feel more secure.

As far as humidity goes, I find about 50% to be pretty reasonable. Don't let it get too low or the snake won't have proper sheds. I've also noticed the scales will flake off with low humidity levels (not the actual scale, but a clear piece that looks like shedding).

Good luck with whatever you get, post pics when you get it for sure!

[mainbutter]

Their colors don't change drastically from hatchling to adult. How well defined the pattern is can change, but not much usually.

You do not have to brumate or hibernate a corn, even to breed, though brumation is often a good way to ensure your corns are "in the mood" and feel the season of breeding is at hand. That said, plenty of people breed corns without brumating.

These guys do very well with low to medium humidity, it's usually not a concern at all with corns. No spraying or anything.

For feeding, I generally go with width of widest part of the body. They can eat surprisingly big meals, but it's also easy to overfeed these guys, as they will readily strike and eat almost all the time.

[LP.]

Thanks alot you two. Theres an ad on kijiji in my area listing some babys from 09, including anerythristic and snow, so I might take a look at them. I''ll definately post some pictures when I get the snake(s)!

[luckycharm318]

www.iansvivarium.com will show you pictures of morphs as hatchlings and adults, and their colors DO change from hatchling to adulthood. Check out that site to see! Here is a link to the Munson Plan for feeding. Use it as more of a guide as not all snakes will conform to it exactly. A basic rule of thumb is no more than 1 1/2 times the widest part of the body. If the prey item doesn't make a feeding lump, it may be time to bump up to the next size prey item. Alternatively, if the feeding lump is very large and present for more than 4 days, the prey item was too large and you should definitely bump down.

[king216]

as the title says, my next snake is definately a corn. Possibly 2, but i doubt it.

I really like the anerythristics, lavenders, ambers, blizzards, ghosts, opals, and snows, how do their colours change/look from hatchlings to adults?

This will most likely be a personal pet. Do i have to brumate or hibernate it? Would i have to do either if i decided to breed?

I would probably keep this snake in a terrarium unless i decide to get more then one, then i would keep in tubs. What size terrarium should i start a hatchling off in, and what do you suggest i have with the enclosure? Hides, decor, 3 sides covered, etc? And if i keep in a terrarium, how often would i upsize the size? (i highly doubt i will just keep one, especially with terrariums. But just incase)

i know the temperatures, but kind of clueless about the humidity. What do you guys suggest for humidity?

This is something i somewhat "worried" (?) about. Feeding. I know they can eat mice their whole lives, but what do you suggest the prey size is for the snake? Same size width, 2-3x the size of the head, 10% or so of the body weight? I just go by the thickest part of the girth for my ball pythons.

This is all i could think of asking. Any advice you guys could include ontop of this would be excellent and greatly appreciated though.

where do you live? I'm giving away a female corn

[luckycharm318]

I forgot to add...

Hatchlings and juveniles do fine in 10 gallons, but you CAN just start them in a 20 gallon though you will have to provide lots of hides and some decor so that it is not so open. Hatchlings and juveniles are quite small and may feel vulnerable in open spaces. Tubs are also appropriate for housing corns, typically an adult can be housed in a 30 quart but if you don't have a rack system set up yet you might go for a 41 quart tub for a little more room. Hatchlings go in more of a shoebox sized container, yearlings in a 15 quart, juveniles can move up to a slightly larger size or you could go right to your adult size tubs, it's up to you.

Hides can be made out of anything, really. Empty containers, paper towel rolls, toilet paper tubes, cereal boxes, etc. They're disposable so if they get pooped on you can just toss them out and replace them with something else.

Reptile carpet is good if you have at least two pieces that you can switch out when one gets soiled, I'm using newspaper and paper towels now though. Shredded or just sheets work fine. Most people use aspen, I find it to be a pain when it comes to complete cleaning, but maybe that's just because it's difficult for me to wrangle a 20 gallon tank halfway into a garbage bag without spilling.

Some breeders do brumate, some don't, it's more a matter of personal preference.

Humidity should hang around 50%, bump it up to 60% when they're shedding. I usually just scoot the water bowl over slightly onto the UTH and that does the trick.

Sorry for editing multiple times!

[LP.]

where do you live? I'm giving away a female corn

I'm live in Ontario, Canada. I wouldn't be able to take it either way as I do not have the space for any other animal right now. Thank you for the offer though.

Luckycharm318: Thank you for your help. I'll add these pages to my favourites.

Thanks to everybody for their help

[Theluciddreamers]

You should do research on what corn you might want to get will look as an adult. I got a butter corn which is still a hatchling, and she has only a little yellow and that is on her head. When I look online I have found that butters can range from a bright yellow on the whole body, to only a little yellow on the head.

I also have a amelanistic corn that is my girlfriends snake. When we first got her they told us she was a hypo. We thought that she was really a candy cane. Do your research because you might think you are getting the snake you wanted, or like the look of as a baby. Then, you realize it's not what you thought it was. The good thing for us is that we didn't care. We just wanted to get our first snake, and after doing a lot of research on how to care for corn snakes we then just picked one that looked good at the moment.