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    Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    I honestly thought that my female wasn't gonna go since I started later in the season. She was laying on the cool end a lot but one day she just went over to the warm end so I thought that was it. Well, last night I was checking on her because I had put the male in 2 days previously just to see what would happen.

    Before last night, she was sort of refusing him, but managed to lock up a couple times. Not for very long though.

    Now, she's going into shed, staying on the warm side often, and laying inverted! I really do hope I get a clutch, even if it is small, I would be so proud of her! Can't wait to see what happens, this whole breeding thing is too exciting.

    Here's a photo from today
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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Hey tiff,
    Didn't you only just start pairing them like a couple weeks ago? If so I think it's still a bit early. But goodluck!!!

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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy78 View Post
    Hey tiff,
    Didn't you only just start pairing them like a couple weeks ago? If so I think it's still a bit early. But goodluck!!!
    No I started pairing them up on 3/12, which was two months ago. I was told she'll lay most likely at the end of Spring or beginning of Summer, which seems to be happening.

    They had a natural cooling period since it started getting cooler. I did not intend to cool them but being in Arizona and how my room gets it's more natural I guess.

    So hopefully this will be her pre-lay shed, and thanks!!!
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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Keeping my fingers crossed for you Tiffany.
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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    No I started pairing them up on 3/12, which was two months ago. I was told she'll lay most likely at the end of Spring or beginning of Summer, which seems to be happening.

    They had a natural cooling period since it started getting cooler. I did not intend to cool them but being in Arizona and how my room gets it's more natural I guess.

    So hopefully this will be her pre-lay shed, and thanks!!!
    I don't want to burst your bubble, but most people have been pairing since November and are just now getting eggs (end of spring, beginning of summer). I would keep pairing her if I were you. Laying inverted is a good sign of building. http://ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html

    I would keep an eye out for her ovulation.
    Last edited by SlitherinSisters; 05-13-2010 at 12:00 PM.

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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    what is "building"?

    my current collection
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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mommanessy247 View Post
    what is "building"?
    I answered this question the last time to asked

    Quote Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    When they are building they are looking for the cool side. It's thought that wrapping around the water bowl enhances the coolness. I'm not sure that anyone knows why they crave coolness when they are building Building is when the follicles start to develop (the very beginnings of eggs), this happens before they ovulate. I don't know if that snake is building, but the picture seems to suggest it. They will seek the hot side and never leave it once they had their prey lay shed. USUALLY, but snakes don't always go by the book.
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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    I honestly thought that my female wasn't gonna go since I started later in the season. She was laying on the cool end a lot but one day she just went over to the warm end so I thought that was it. Well, last night I was checking on her because I had put the male in 2 days previously just to see what would happen.

    Before last night, she was sort of refusing him, but managed to lock up a couple times. Not for very long though.

    Now, she's going into shed, staying on the warm side often, and laying inverted! I really do hope I get a clutch, even if it is small, I would be so proud of her! Can't wait to see what happens, this whole breeding thing is too exciting.

    Here's a photo from today
    If she's favoring the warm end rather than the cool, perhaps you're right. Either way, congrats and good luck.

    Have you palpated her at all? Before ovulation and during the "building" process, you should be able to feel a string of pearls about two thirds of the way down her body. They begin very small (think pea sized) and gradually become closer to golf ball-size just before ovulation. You can count these as her potential eggs. After she ovulates, they will no longer feel so hard but they can still be felt and counted. Any "slugs" among them will feel a little different.

    Ralph Davis has a good vid of palpating a female if that helps.
    YouTube - Pet Project 08 - part 1 ( follicles )

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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    I honestly thought that my female wasn't gonna go since I started later in the season. She was laying on the cool end a lot but one day she just went over to the warm end so I thought that was it. Well, last night I was checking on her because I had put the male in 2 days previously just to see what would happen.

    Before last night, she was sort of refusing him, but managed to lock up a couple times. Not for very long though.

    Now, she's going into shed, staying on the warm side often, and laying inverted! I really do hope I get a clutch, even if it is small, I would be so proud of her! Can't wait to see what happens, this whole breeding thing is too exciting.

    Here's a photo from today
    If you had something like an ovulation a few weeks ago, I'd say you're in!

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    Re: Starting her pre-lay shed!!!

    Either way Tiff, CONGRATS!

    Whether she lays in 30 days or not, that is a good sign, means she has something going on "in there".

    You are going to be bald and have deep worry lines before this is over, but you will get to open a tub when you least expect it thinking "oh great, just a peek" and will see her curled on a nice mound of pearly whites.

    Your mouth will drop... you'll close the tub... you'll do the happy silent scream dance of joy... and then go from there.

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