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    Question Sleep Dep. Question...

    Ok, I'm trying to fall asleep...but can't, so I figured I'd ask a somewhat de ta dee question...

    I'm wondering, when breeding BPs does it matter the sex of the morph when bred to a "normal"?....What I mean is....

    "Normal" Male
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    I'm pretty Positive it'd be the same outcome if the morph was the Male...

    I need sleep...

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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    the way i look at it is, if the morph is the female and the male is the normal when you breed and if you hit the odds and get the morph male you can breed him back to the female morph alot sooner. hope that helps.

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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    im manic depressive so i often have sleep trouble. i will probly enjoy watching my bp move around at night, when i get it, if it does. who knows maybe i'll pop on here for a visit with the nocturnal bp.net members.

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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    DNA Genes come in pairs. Each animal brings one side to the genetic equation. Put together you get the pair of genes for each trait to make a new animal. So, no it doesn't matter which is the male.

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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    There are rumors, whispers in hushed and reverent tones of a morph that the male only produces female's of the morph and Female's only throw male's. It's still in the testing phase to be 100% sure but when I spoke with the breeder a few weeks ago they we're pretty sure that after years of breeding they can say for sure that the morph is sex related.

    Just some food for thought.
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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    as far as producing a morph, it does not matter which is the morph and which is the norm.
    however if time is an issue for you, jben makes a good point.
    when it comes to recessive and co-dominant morphs it best to have a female morph. it will take less time to raise its offspring to breed back to it.
    now if it's a dominant morph, i don't see it mattering seeing as there is no super form.
    john

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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    There are rumors, whispers in hushed and reverent tones of a morph that the male only produces female's of the morph and Female's only throw male's. It's still in the testing phase to be 100% sure but when I spoke with the breeder a few weeks ago they we're pretty sure that after years of breeding they can say for sure that the morph is sex related.

    Just some food for thought.
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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Is this A morph or a more than one?
    Singular..
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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    Cool, thanks guys. Yeah thats interesting as far as Females throwing Males and vice vesa...Hmmm...

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    Re: Sleep Dep. Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    There are rumors, whispers in hushed and reverent tones of a morph that the male only produces female's of the morph and Female's only throw male's. It's still in the testing phase to be 100% sure but when I spoke with the breeder a few weeks ago they we're pretty sure that after years of breeding they can say for sure that the morph is sex related.

    Just some food for thought.
    That is very interesting to me. I have been studying on morphs and genetics for BP's, and discovered there is a striking similarity to the genetics of the cockatiels I used to breed. There are several sex-related colors in cockatiels, in which a male who carries a certain color produces female babies of said color, but not males. It would be amazing if they discovered something similar in ball pythons.

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