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    Question lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    what is the temp that will burn my snake but not kill it

    the temp that will kill him high and low <not over time im talking over night

    best hot temp i should have.. seen ppl say 89,92.94 < need the best

    is it ok to have an over all cage temp 80 to 85?

    if the substrate is really moist will this cause the scale rot?
    cause his skin to loosen?

    should his droppings be the same size as the mouse i fed him?< 1 time it was. this last time it was very small and then he poopd lookd like fecal matter not a rotten mouse < hard to explain

    will to much use of a uvb kill/harm my snake if they are black lights?

    my uth maxes 91.5 < this hot enough?

    lol he just devoured a mouse.. just put it in 3 mins ago started writing this.. turned around and all i see is a tail in his mouth... fed him 2 days early.. seems im not feeding him enough going to feed twice a week this a good idea? they are adult mice.. and imo he probs could take a small rat

    atm he feels really scaley.. on his belly they catch clothes now.. is this normal? when i bought him he was smooth all over and could glide over my shirt now he gets stuck alot..


    might have more but atm i have been wondering these.. most these qwestions where brought by members giving diff storys .. so i need them cleared by

    someone who bought there bp not to be a show item and doesnt just keep them on paper towels..

    my snake was bought to be a pet to be played with everyday and to be out of his cage when it was night time and chill on the bed with us.. he seems to watch movies with us.. lol true story.

    is it normal for my snake to curl into a heart shape? took a pic lmk if u wanna see but he made a heart with his body was pretty cool


    please dont post if you dont know.. no need ideas i want answers atm..
    if someone can give them that would be great

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    what is the temp that will burn my snake but not kill it

    the temp that will kill him high and low <not over time im talking over night

    best hot temp i should have.. seen ppl say 89,92.94 < need the best

    is it ok to have an over all cage temp 80 to 85?

    if the substrate is really moist will this cause the scale rot?
    cause his skin to loosen?

    should his droppings be the same size as the mouse i fed him?< 1 time it was. this last time it was very small and then he poopd lookd like fecal matter not a rotten mouse < hard to explain

    will to much use of a uvb kill/harm my snake if they are black lights?

    my uth maxes 91.5 < this hot enough?

    lol he just devoured a mouse.. just put it in 3 mins ago started writing this.. turned around and all i see is a tail in his mouth... fed him 2 days early.. seems im not feeding him enough going to feed twice a week this a good idea? they are adult mice.. and imo he probs could take a small rat

    atm he feels really scaley.. on his belly they catch clothes now.. is this normal? when i bought him he was smooth all over and could glide over my shirt now he gets stuck alot..


    might have more but atm i have been wondering these.. most these qwestions where brought by members giving diff storys .. so i need them cleared by

    someone who bought there bp not to be a show item and doesnt just keep them on paper towels..

    my snake was bought to be a pet to be played with everyday and to be out of his cage when it was night time and chill on the bed with us.. he seems to watch movies with us.. lol true story.

    is it normal for my snake to curl into a heart shape? took a pic lmk if u wanna see but he made a heart with his body was pretty cool


    please dont post if you dont know.. no need ideas i want answers atm..
    if someone can give them that would be great

    http://www.google.com/

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerbean101 View Post
    oh thought i was on a bp forum made to help ppl in the care methods of there pets?

    guess google best rename to bp experts ....

    i really did lol since google is a fail search engine might as well have posted ask geevs.com or msn...


    like i said before maybe you didnt read.... i dont want multi answers and a SEARCH engine would give me MULTI POSSIBILITY'S now maybe a site name would be better but atm.. im face palming ya lol

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    k went ahead and googled this

    ball python care


    just read on a site that a 55 gallon tank would house a .... not telling me what size but they person was just talking about a baby bp.... hmmmmmmmmmm that sounds wrong lol cuz ppl on here say to big of a cage will cause stress?

    this is why i want a snake owner to answer the questions not some guy who is talking in general



    sorry but when someone posts http://google.com i tend to inform them of what a hassle it is to find FACTS not general info on the snake

    like i said a site name would do wonders as well

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    Doing a general search on the forum itself will find you a TON of answers.

    For instance, if you typed the word "temperatures" in the BP.net search engine, you'll find hundreds of threads related to proper temperatures.

    It's just much easier than having us repeat ourselves.
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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    Alright I guess I'll be the one to answer these questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    what is the temp that will burn my snake but not kill it
    I'm not too sure, but normally when the temps are higher than what they should be it will cause your snake to overheat and if it's too hot then your snake can suffer from severe burns or death from overheating.

    the temp that will kill him high and low <not over time im talking over night
    If it's extremely cold in whatever room he's in then that should do it. But preferably we tend to keep our ambient temp above 75F at night and during the day so no respiratory infections will develope because that's what happens when temps are far too cold. Probably temps of 100F+ could kill the snake. I had my UTHs get 124F (10-20g UTHs) and 112F when I came home from school one day. I'm so glad nothing happened to the snakes.


    best hot temp i should have.. seen ppl say 89,92.94 < need the best
    I keep mine in the 89F-93F range. I would try to keep it in the 90s, like 90F, 91F, and 92F.

    is it ok to have an over all cage temp 80 to 85?
    If you are talking ambient temp-yes. Ambient should be above 80F but not more than 85F.

    if the substrate is really moist will this cause the scale rot?
    cause his skin to loosen?
    If it's dripping wet or too moist then it can cause scale rot. I lightly mist my tubs when needed, not too much to make the substrate damp. I use Aspen so I really do have to be careful. Just mist with warm water, couple sprays should do it.

    should his droppings be the same size as the mouse i fed him?< 1 time it was. this last time it was very small and then he poopd lookd like fecal matter not a rotten mouse < hard to explain
    I know what you are trying to explain, and no the feces does not have to be the same size of the rodent you fed them. I feed my largest normal female medium rats and she doesn't defecate as large as the rat was.

    will to much use of a uvb kill/harm my snake if they are black lights?
    No, but it really is not needed. If you would like to view your snake at night then you can get a black light, I don't see any harm in doing so. But IMO there is really no reason to view a snake at night if you're gonna go to bed anyways.

    my uth maxes 91.5 < this hot enough?
    It's just fine, right where you want it.

    lol he just devoured a mouse.. just put it in 3 mins ago started writing this.. turned around and all i see is a tail in his mouth... fed him 2 days early.. seems im not feeding him enough going to feed twice a week this a good idea? they are adult mice.. and imo he probs could take a small rat
    I would suggest feeding the snake a rodent about the same size as the middle part of the snake's body. For babies I would believe feeding them every 5 days is necessary, some people even feed theirs every 3 days but to me that seems a bit much. Normally if you have a good eater they will take whatever is given until they burst, so no need to be feeding him two days after he already ate. I just feed my snakes every 7 days, easier schedule.

    atm he feels really scaley.. on his belly they catch clothes now.. is this normal? when i bought him he was smooth all over and could glide over my shirt now he gets stuck alot..
    Sometimes this will happen when the snake is about to shed. Does the belly have a pink tint to it, are the eyes turning a cloudy/milky blue or gray color, is the skin looking more dull, and is his skin seem a bit more wrinkley? My guess is he could be going into shed, so watch for those signs and he should be out of shed within a week or so.

    is it normal for my snake to curl into a heart shape? took a pic lmk if u wanna see but he made a heart with his body was pretty cool
    Pythons can do some weird stuff with their bodies because of how muscular they are, so I think it's pretty normal.

    I used to have tons of questions like these as well, so that is why I answered yours. Sometimes people would never really answer to my posts, so I would just be like "Oh.. alright.." LOL.

    And you do know to not handle your snake after it has eaten, right? Just making sure of this because they will regurgitate (throw up) their meal if you handle them after they eat. I normally wait 48 hours after they ate to handle them again.
    Tiff'z Morphz

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    just read on a site that a 55 gallon tank would house a .... not telling me what size but they person was just talking about a baby bp.... hmmmmmmmmmm that sounds wrong lol cuz ppl on here say to big of a cage will cause stress?
    Yes, it does cause a lot of stress. Ball pythons don't like to be out in the open in large areas, that is why we give them smaller places and tighter hides because they feel a lot more comfortable and secure that way. 55g is what I would suggest for an adult Ball python, but I use tubs so I don't need a tank.
    Tiff'z Morphz

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    I am honestly surprised with this forum. I hope you find all your answers. I am glad someone did answer you.

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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    Here's the one's I can answer for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    what is the temp that will burn my snake but not kill it
    In the threads I have read about thermal burns, they usually occured at temps over 100F.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    best hot temp i should have.. seen ppl say 89,92.94 < need the best
    I always try to maintain at warm side temp between 91-93F.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    is it ok to have an over all cage temp 80 to 85?
    Since the cool side temp is normally the same as the ambient cage temp, try to keep it around 8- 10 degrees cooler than the hot side hide temp to allow a good temp gradient for thermoregulation.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    if the substrate is really moist will this cause the scale rot?
    Yes it can. Bacteria can grow in substrate that is too wet and cause infection. Kind of the same thing as trench foot in humans.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    cause his skin to loosen?
    Possibly the same type of results you get on your hands and feet when you've been in the water for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    should his droppings be the same size as the mouse i fed him?< 1 time it was. this last time it was very small and then he poopd lookd like fecal matter not a rotten mouse < hard to explain
    The waste from one mouse will not be as big as the mouse originally because they utilize the majority of it for nutrients. The one time that it did was probably about 3-4 weeks of feces being passed at once. The normal cycle for mine run about 3 in, 1 out. Sometimes they will hold on to it for weeks and then leave you a Poozilla to contend with.

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    will to much use of a uvb kill/harm my snake if they are black lights?
    Ball Pythons are nocturnal. They do not need much UVB other than what they get from ambient light. Here is a link to Melissa Kaplans website where she talks about UVB and Blacklights in detail, as well as, a ton of other useful information. * Note* Moonlight or night bulbs are not the same as a flourescent "black light" such as the ones used in night clubs.

    http://www.anapsid.org/maincaptive.html

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    my uth maxes 91.5 < this hot enough?
    It depends on whether or not you can maintain that temp in the warm side hide. You may have to dust the thickness or type of substrate to achieve this. Sometimes keeping the ambient room temp around 78-80F will help the UTH run hotter because not so much heat is dissipated into the colder ambient air. You also may need to get a UTH that runs at a higher wattage. Most UTH's have their watt rating on the outside of the box...

    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    seems im not feeding him enough going to feed twice a week this a good idea? they are adult mice.. and imo he probs could take a small rat
    If your snake is young, you can feed every 5-7 days. This is when then snake is growing fast and using most of the nutrients. Prey should be no bigger than the biggest part of your snake, or 10%-15% of their body weight. If your snake will eat rats, then great. A snake that will eat both is even better, especially if the pet store is out of the size you need.


    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    atm he feels really scaley.. on his belly they catch clothes now.. is this normal? when i bought him he was smooth all over and could glide over my shirt now he gets stuck alot..
    Sounds like his skin is preparing for a shed.


    Quote Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    is it normal for my snake to curl into a heart shape? took a pic lmk if u wanna see but he made a heart with his body was pretty cool
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    Re: lots of questions atm.. basic curiosity

    thanks a bunch

    i didnt know there was a search engine on this site.. lol i just go to a fav post and then click general bp and head to that forum

    but anyways i dont handle after eating of course and atm hes hiding alot and gets really defensive when i open the cage and lift a hide to check on him.. so im guessing it is shed time and yeah he has a slite pink belly.. but has had it for a week now... and no cloudy eyes...


    but now im worried about a r/i when i run my hand down him on his belly he will make a gugrling noise,, now i have been told they will make this because they are digesting the meal.. but now im being told it could be a r/i... and i did have an issue with the cage being cold and wet for about 1 day.. had to soak his dirt with hot water to kill the wood mites... its dry now

    but he made the noise BEFORE the substrate was wet.. and the temps where fine.. so im leaning towards the digesting part

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