Tank Upgrade

[shootingstar26]

Hello!

As someone new to the realm of snake-husbandry, I had a question about changing snake tank sizes. I currently have my ball python in a 5-gallon tank that the store sold me, then in an amazing fashion told me over the phone that they did not recommend it (mutters)...however, it has displayed normal behaviour (went from cool <=> hot, fed every week) until about its last shed. After its last shed, I lightly changed the arrangement of the tank, and now it spends all its time in its warm hide - but the cool side is warm enough (about 80 - right?). Also: it's longer than the longest side of the tank, and for reason I have it in my head that it is now time to change the tank. Is that right? Do I need a bigger tank?

[Vypyrz]

Sometimes, just changing things around in a tank will cause the snake to stress a little because it is something "new" for them and they need a few days to adjust again.
As far as upgrading the tank size. Some people recommend 1 sqare foot of floor space per 1 foot of snake length. And some will go by the rule of once the length of the snake exceeds the total of 1 long side plus 1 short side, then upgrade. In your case, you can move up to a 10, 15, or maybe even a 20 long. I would think that since you are currently only using a 5 gallon then moving up to a 10 gallon may be your best bet. If you go with the larger size keep in mind that most BP's do better in a tank not more than about 12-14 inches tall. Also you will probably need to add some fake vines and/or plants to clutter it up a bit and fill in some of the dead space. I don't know how you are heating your current set-up, but if you are not currently using one, an Under Tank Heater that will cover about 1/3 to 1/2 of the floor space and a thermostat to control it will be a wise investment. Which ever size you decide to go with, there are plenty of people here who will help with the set-up or you can use the "Search" function and pull up a ton of threads on setting up a new tank. Hope this helps...

[mr. s]

If you wanted to save some money you could always get yourself a locking tub. These are good for security and keeping ambient temperatures as well. Personally, I am not a fan of buying a new tank that is 5 gallons bigger every couple months. Maybe get a tub till your snake can fit into a 30 gallon wide then keep it in the 30 for the next 15+ years.

[shootingstar26]

Hm. I heard a 20 gallon was good for a snake for the rest of its life. Is a 30 still good? Also, 40 is too much, right?

[bman123]

Get yourself a tub man. A 16qt should be great for a while plus they are only $2 at a dollar store. Skip the whole tank idea if you want the following
A less stressed snake
Easier clean up
Easier temp control

Ball pythons are hiders, you shouldn't see them that much. A tub is perfect

[mr. s]

Yes, tubs are very good.
Many people prefer tanks for their visual appeal and they do not have problems with their snakes. 20 gallons may be enough for some snakes, but a full grown ball python would need a 30 wide in my experience. I have a big male in a 30 wide right now and he is very content. Yes, with a tank one must be more mindful of husbandry challenges present with glass and high amounts of heat and humidity loss. There are several simple options for overcoming these difficulties however with a little planning beforehand.

[shootingstar26]

Hypothetically, if I were to use a plastic tub, could I use an uth? Those will melt the plastic, won't they? Also, to mr. s, what sort of simple options are there?

[mr. s]

I have 2 fully set up tanks right now which do not have problems with husbandry. This was not always so. I made a couple mistakes first, which thankfully did not cause any serious problems.
Heat
Yes. You can use an under tank heater. Get a dimmer from a walmart or somewhere and get something to accurately measure. You need to be able to check the hot side and the cold side. One problem is that with tanks, heat can escape easily. Personally, I put a blanket over the top and it keeps the right temperatures for me.
Humidity
Get something that can measure this accurately. With a blanket over the top, humidity will be kept in too. It takes a little getting used to in order to know how much water needs to be added how often to keep the 50% humidity, or higher for sheds. A good selection of substrate is important. I use coconut substrate, which is cheap, great for keeping in moisture and I have never had trouble with mold.
Other than that, everything is the same for set up. Offer hides on both warm and cold sides, fresh water, etc. Also, although I have never faced this problem, sometimes it is good to cover up some of the side of the tank to create a more secure feeling home for the snake. This restricts how much movement they see around the tank and can keep them calmer. (Like I said, I have never had a problem with this, possibly just how my tanks are situated).

If you have any more questions feel free to ask.