so i bred the lady with 4 males

[NathanV]

what are the chances of a dual father clutch??

[Jay_Bunny]

Not sure what the chances are. It is kind of something that just happens randomly. I'm hoping for a multi-sired clutch as well this season. Good luck!

[250rider]

I was just about to ask the same question. my female has been bred to my pastel and cinny. sometimes a day apart. how often do multiple sired clutches occur?

[SlitherinSisters]

I'm not sure of the likelihood, but I'm guessing it's fairly slim.

[Clementine_3]

OK, I really want to understand this theory. I've seen it mentioned mentioned many times and I really don't understand why you would have multiple males mate a single female.
I admit, I don't keep BP's (Carpets here) and have no plans for breeding snakes or my Leo's and know next to nothing about genetics (hence, no breeding plans haha). But...are you guys talking normals, hets or what? Seriously stupid question but isn't it just a crap shoot then? Why not just pic a nice male and nice female and call it breeding season? Can someone explain this to me? I'm not trying to be...stupid...I just don't get the logic??

[dr del]

Hi,

Well, the reasons I would do it would be...

You will still have a chance at offspring if one male isn't intrested or is shooting blanks.

It can increase the chances of you getting any specific requirements. Say you had 5 normal females and a pastel male and a spider male. But you desperately needed to produce female spiders and female pastels.

Breeding both males to all 5 females means you have 5 chances of getting eggs that have the genes you need compared to breeding each male to only one female and that female deciding not to produce that year. The odds per egg remain the same but the number of possible eggs you are dealing with goes up fivefold on average.

It means you genuinely don't know what you might get in each clutch - fun is also a reason.

It is quite important however not to do it with morphs that produce non-visual hets as there would be no way of knowing what genes were in what snake at that point.

As long as you stick to morphs where the heterozygous form is visual ( like pastels, spiders, black pastels, pinstripes etc ) then you should be able to pick out who fathered which egg except for the normals who wouldn't be carrying any of the fathers morph genes at that point anyway.


dr del

[Clementine_3]

It means you genuinely don't know what you might get in each clutch - fun is also a reason.

Ha, yeah...that much I figured I'm all for fun.

It is quite important however not to do it with morphs that produce non-visual hets as there would be no way of knowing what genes were in what snake at that point.

Hence my confusion! lol. I got stuck on this aspect of the whole thing I guess...a big clutch of 'mutts' wondering "who's your Daddy".

As long as you stick to morphs where the heterozygous form is visual ( like pastels, spiders, black pastels, pinstripes etc ) then you should be able to pick out who fathered which egg except for the normals

This does make sense and I had not thought of the obvious. I guess I could not see the forest through the trees here.

The OP's BP list is: 1.5 Normal BP 1.1 Cinnamon BP 0.1 Lemon Pastel BP 1.1 Mojave BP 0.1 Axanthic BP 1.0 Vanilla Pastel BP 1.0 Pinstripe BP 1.0 Russo Het White Diamond BP 1.0 Spider BP 0.1 Yellow Splash BP 1.0 Het Genetic Stripe BP, more than one female and many males and no mention was made as to who was being paired with whom. I couldn't figure what end result(s) they were/are shooting for.
Thanks for 'splain'n' it

[NathanV]

the reason im doing it is becausee im curious to see what pops out

my pairs are:

normal to pin/cinny/mojo/vanilla

normal to pin

normal to vanilla

mojo to mojo/ cinny

axanthic to cinny

[Clementine_3]

Thanks for the breakdown!
I will just stick to not breeding and not pondering things that really don't matter to me.
It was just the whole (seemingly) willy-nilly-ness of it all that made me admit my confusion!

[phoerner]

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=109827&page=2

last post if that helps