this is another morph question

[sweet_nikki]

ok so Taz is a Red Albino Motley het for Butter what i want to know whats is with the het for Butter? I seen his mom and dad. Dad was what i am guessing a butter beacuse he was white and yellow and mom was in shed but look to me all red...breeder says that she is stop sign red. if i was to get him a girlfriend what morph whould you guy's suggest?

[bondo]

His dad is a butter so that makes him het for it. Otherwise another way to say it because he is homo for amel would be to say amel het caramel. So if you breed him to a butter or het butter you will end up with some butter hatchlings.

[Blue Apple Herps]

It basically means its het for caramel. Butter is amel and caramel. Since its homo for amel, then it technically can't be het for butter. But saying amel het butter is generally OK. Breed it to something het butter and you could produce butters, breed it to something with caramel, and you could produce caramels het amel.

[sweet_nikki]

so mom is an amel thats what make him homo for amel? but i did not see any yellow on her she was a soild red i think. like i said she was in shed and not very bright.... should ask the breeder what she is duh EH! also he also has some retained shed on his nose i have been swabing his nose with a wet Q tip he dose not like that but he has not tried to bit me such a sweetie it got it to come up a bit will it maybe come off with his next shed? i don't want to hurt him

[kc261]

From the picture, your snake is clearly an amel, which is short for amelanistic. Red albino is another name for the same thing. I'm not good enough to know from just the head shot if he is motley also, but since you were told he is, I'll assume that is correct. Motley, in case you don't know, refers to the pattern, rather than the color.

Butter is a combination of amel and caramel. Since you were told het for butter, that really means het for caramel, since your snake is already homo amel.

Your description of the parents also fits with those genetics, so that's always good.

As far as what to breed with him, it depends on what you'd like to produce. Perhaps the most fun would be a caramel het amel and motley. That would allow you to produce amels, amel motleys, caramels, caramel motleys, butters, butter motleys, and normals and normal motleys, all in the same clutch!

Also, if when you said mom was a solid red, you meant solid red with no pattern, then your snake may also be het for bloodred, which can look almost patternless in adult snakes. Another possibility for the mother looking patternless is if she was a stripe, and that works with motley in ways I don't fully understand, but I think it would mean that your snake which appears motley actually has one motley gene and one stripe gene. So, if mom did appear as a solid, patternless red, you might want to get back to the breeder and find out what she was.

If the stuck shed is only a small piece, I'd just leave it until the next shed.

[sweet_nikki]

ok so that was quick emailed the breeder he got back to me right way this is what he said about the parents. (Yeah the dad is butter and the mom is from my high red amelanistic line. Both parents are motley patterns) wow thats alot of morhps!! i have other pictures of him on here one body shot.

[mason]

ok so that was quick emailed the breeder he got back to me right way this is what he said about the parents. (Yeah the dad is butter and the mom is from my high red amelanistic line. Both parents are motley patterns) wow thats alot of morhps!! i have other pictures of him on here one body shot.

In that case you have an amel motley 100% het for caramel (amel and caramel together being butter this is termed "het butter" a NORMAL het butter would be a normal 100% het amel and caramel)

motley to motley means all babies (inc the one you bought) must be motley. Similarly both parents were visual amel so your snake must be an amel.

To break it down for you the pairing that produced your snake was:

butter (amel, caramel) motley x amel motley

[sweet_nikki]

In that case you have an amel motley 100% het for caramel (amel and caramel together being butter this is termed "het butter" a NORMAL het butter would be a normal 100% het amel and caramel)

motley to motley means all babies (inc the one you bought) must be motley. Similarly both parents were visual amel so your snake must be an amel.

To break it down for you the pairing that produced your snake was:

butter (amel, caramel) motley x amel motley

so thats good right? because he is so pretty...lol

[mason]

so thats good right? because he is so pretty...lol

And that is the mostimportant thing, that you like him.


But as it happens, yes, that's a pretty handy gene combination to have around

Butter motleys are lovely and if you got yourself a butter het motley, or normal het caramel, amel and motley (etc) as a partner for your boy you'd make butter motleys.

Here's our butter motley to give you an idea



This is one of our female butters:




and this is a caramel motley:

[sweet_nikki]

And that is the mostimportant thing, that you like him.


But as it happens, yes, that's a pretty handy gene combination to have around

Butter motleys are lovely and if you got yourself a butter het motley, or normal het caramel, amel and motley (etc) as a partner for your boy you'd make butter motleys.

Here's our butter motley to give you an idea



This is one of our female butters:




and this is a caramel motley:

wow those are pretty snakes