Question

[Zach Spyker]

morphs and sexes
say I want to make spinners or bumble bees. would it be better to get one sex over the other of certain morphs. like a male spider Vs. having a female as fair as health issues, carrying eggs laying them or locking up. I have heard spiders can have neurological problems. Does it effect breeding?

Does out crossing of the spiders have any affect on their nero problem.

it may be odd ? but i'm just getting back into ball pythons and wanted to have a good start.

So basically for example, would it be better to have a stud spider and pastel females or a stud pastel and spider females?

Or does it not matter?

[sassy-pants]

It doesn't matter, but pastel females are cheaper than spider females, if cost is a consideration.

If you have a seriously wobbled spider, please don't breed it. I believe that BP breeders should be working to eradicate as many of the awful neuro problems that BPs can get by not breeding those animals, though they can be bred. JMHO.

[dr del]

Hi,

The problem with that is no one has proved that train-wreck spinning spiders have worse spinning offspring than spiders who show no symptoms.

It seems to be just as random as the amount of white on pieds, spiders and calicos.

What I would do is sit down and think seriously about the type of morph combo's you want to make and evaluate the ingredients.

If the list of combo's you want have 5 times the number of pastel genes than spider genes then buying a male pastel might make sense as that single animal can cover 5 females in the same season.

I doubt it would be that clear cut obviously but you get the idea.


dr del

[Zach Spyker]

Thanks
I didn't think it mattered . Just wanted to make sure.
Guess it just depends on what you are going for in your projects and how much you want to spend.

I don't have any spiders I actualy don't have any BP. YET...
Just wanted to make a well informed decision before I make my purchases.

Any Other Opinions?

[WingedWolfPsion]

I would go with a female spider. Spiders are renowned for being excellent feeders. If you get one from good lines, she is likely to be a fast-growing chowhound, which means she'll produce more for you sooner.

[jjmitchell]

My spider girls are both good eaters..... but it seems from my experience any way that as babies females are usually better eaters than males any way. I bought my male pastel at a very "affordable" price is why i went with spider females....

[jjmitchell]

only other idea is a male spider could breed female pastel and female pin so that would give you both morphs you desire to produce....

[OhhWatALoser]

i would go with the stud spider.

as for the fact if you ever want to go for killer bee, you can breed (if you get it) your bumblebee male to your pastel female in less than a year, instead of waiting for a bumblebee female to grow up