Genetic Stripe

[withonor]

Here I am at six days of ownership, though I did a few weeks of research before hand and have loved animals since about the time I could speak, and I am thinking about getting some genetic stripe morphs. You guys are right, they're like potatoe chips.

A member here posted pictures of his collection and he had a beautiful picture of a genetic stripe. The strip was continuous, black lines were solid from head to tail, and I couldn't see any side markings, I loved it. I generally like simplified characteristics of anything. Feng shui. Simple balances.

I've been searching breeders and websites to see what's for sale and there isn't much. I've found the most at kingsnake.com with faunaclassifieds.com coming in second. It's sort of an expensive morph but doesn't seem that popular, I'm disappointed. Also I haven't found too much information about them beyond what breeders have for sale. There are some spectacular combos with pastel and cinnamon, amongst others.

I am really tempted to pick up a homogeneous genetic strip because I love the pattern and to get a head start on possibly breeding them. They're $700-800 though while a male/female pair of heterozygous are around $300-400. But I hate playing the lottery when I can increase my odds.

There is another morph that I haven't seen but I saw mentioned somewhere. Someone said that a cinnamon pastel could lead to solid black ball python? I would love that too. And I really like the coloring of a cinnamon genetic stripe.

Am I totally crazy?

[Matt K]

The Super form of the Cinnamon is an all dark brown snake--much like the Super form of the Black Pastel is an all black snake (though in both cases some are cleaner than others). If you bought 100% Het. Genetic Stripes you're not necessarily playing the lottery, as eventually you will produce your desired animal, given that they are actually Hets. If you have the money though, I'd say go ahead and grab one. Get a male hatchling Genetic Stripe and a female Het. who's either breedable or has some good weight to her, and you'll be on your way. There is something satisfying though about producing a certain phenotype that is altogether unapparent in the parent animals though. If I were you and had some money kicking around, I'd also check out Super Stripes. I've seen some Spectors floating around, and Yellowbellies are everywhere. Those are the ingredients you need, and in my opinion, they call it a SUPER Stripe for a reason--they are absolute STUNNERS (Spectors are prices accordingly though). Good luck in your endeavors!

Cheers,
-Matt

[withonor]

The Super form of the Cinnamon is an all dark brown snake--much like the Super form of the Black Pastel is an all black snake (though in both cases some are cleaner than others). If you bought 100% Het. Genetic Stripes you're not necessarily playing the lottery, as eventually you will produce your desired animal, given that they are actually Hets. If you have the money though, I'd say go ahead and grab one. Get a male hatchling Genetic Stripe and a female Het. who's either breedable or has some good weight to her, and you'll be on your way. There is something satisfying though about producing a certain phenotype that is altogether unapparent in the parent animals though. If I were you and had some money kicking around, I'd also check out Super Stripes. I've seen some Spectors floating around, and Yellowbellies are everywhere. Those are the ingredients you need, and in my opinion, they call it a SUPER Stripe for a reason--they are absolute STUNNERS (Spectors are prices accordingly though). Good luck in your endeavors!

Cheers,
-Matt

A super cinnamon is an all dark brown snake? A super black pastel is an all black snake? I love those possibilities even though some might not be "perfect." I've seen many genetic stripes that have breaks in the stripe or side patterns. What I am enjoying is that I could possibly focus on these three morphs and have chances for genetic stripes, solid brown, solid black, cinnamon genetic stripes and pastel genetic stripes.

I haven't been to fond of super stripes, spectors or yellowbellies because the patterns are too busy overall for my taste.

I do appreciate your input though as it is giving me a good direction.

[Matt K]

In fact,

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=738892

There's your reasonably priced, high quality (BHB) breedable female Het, haha. Now you just need a male or a male Het and you're on your way for a relatively low cost. If your goal is Super Cinnamon Genetic Stripes and you don't mind doing it the hard and long way, you could always breed a Cinnamon or Black Pastel male to this lady and produce 50% Het. Genetic Stripe Cinnamons, wait a couple years, and breed the siblings to perhaps get you your desired result. The alternatives of finding and buying Hets would be much more laborious and expensive. If you just want an all black snake with a dorsal stripe though, you might want to look into the new "Black Razor" line of Black Pastels. I believe it's Ian G producing these, but the super is basically that, an all black snake with a silver dorsal stripe. I'll stop flapping my gums now though, I don't know why I'm in such a type-y mood. Again, good luck either way!

Cheers,
-Matt

[withonor]

You're helping and not helping at the same time!

I found a seller who has a 100% het genetic stripe male and 100% het genetic stripe female for $200 plus shipping on that same site and I am tempted. I could grab those now and either add a genetic stripe (male or female) to breed with later or try my luck with them. He also offers a genetic stripe male plus a 100% het genetic stripe female for $800.

I have considered the cinnamons and pastels to keep from being completely single minded. The black razor you mention with it's possibilities sounds wonderful.

I love the genetic stripe and that would be my primary goal. The pastel and the cinnamon would be to enhance the possibilities. Obviously there are a whole lot of morphs out there, this gives me a specified list.

[withonor]

Now it's on.....

I offered someone $1000 shipped for a male genetic stripe plus a male 100% het genetic striped and two female 100% het genetic stripe.