Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 662

0 members and 662 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 47,180, Yesterday at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,899
Threads: 249,095
Posts: 2,572,066
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, HellboyBoa
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20
  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-18-2009
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Behavior/Weight Issues.

    I have 2 ball pythons, 1 normal, 1 het yellow ghost, not sure of the genders. I was told the normal, Savage 60, is a female and the het yellow ghost, Phantom, was a male, and because it doesn't really matter to me either way, I went with that.

    Phantom has always been a very docile, sweet boy, the kind of BP anyone can give face snuggles to without fear of him even pulling away, much less striking. I've had him for about a year, no incidents until about a month ago when I reached in his cage to pick him up, no rat smell on me of any kind on me, and he latched onto my hand. I've gotten much better at reading snake body language since my first bite when I was about 15, and while he was giving me 'the look' I didn't think he'd actually do it. Well, he did, and ever since then, he's been like that. To get him off, I ran his head under water and he let go on his own, and now it isn't just in his cage when he's aggressive. I'm used to this behavior from Savage, who used to behave that way all the time.

    The thing is, Savage has turned into the puppy dog that Phantom used to be! She's now the sweet one that doesn't mind handling and snuggles. She's also the heavier of the 2, even though Phantom eats twice what she does, he never seems to put on weight, and she never seems to lose/gain any. What happened? They don't get fed in the tank, they get fed in the bath tub, seperate times, seperate tanks, everything. Their cages are designed the same, but that's about it.


    Sorry to bombard you all with questions, this one's just been bothering me a while. Why have they switched personalities on me? It's sort of saddening, because Phantom has always been my favorite between the two.

    Pictures, if they help?

    Savage 60 -


    Phantom -


  2. #2
    Telling it like it is! Stewart_Reptiles's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-28-2006
    Posts
    24,845
    Thanks
    6,116
    Thanked 20,811 Times in 9,584 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Images: 6

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    I am curious how much do you feed them and how often?
    Deborah Stewart


  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-18-2009
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    They get fed usually a F/T medium rat, in theory, once a week, but sometimes one of them won't want anything, or will only take a small rat or large mouse, or nothing at all.

    I guess I should say I try to get them to eat a F/T medium rats every week. If they're still hungry, they get more, but usually Phantom will eat 2 every week, and Savage will eat 1 about every other week.

    Sorry if that's confusing. When I got Phantom, he was being fed F/T baby quail, but that was way too expensive for me to keep up and too far to drive to get them, so it took a while to finally get him on rats.

    EDIT- Not sure if it matters, but Phantom has gained about 300 grams from when I got him about 10 months ago, but he still looks scrawny. :/
    Last edited by LadyBall; 11-18-2009 at 08:13 PM.

  4. #4
    BPnet Veteran BPelizabeth's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-17-2009
    Location
    Sahuarita, AZ...about 30 miles SW of Tucson
    Posts
    4,650
    Thanks
    1,001
    Thanked 935 Times in 805 Posts
    Images: 17

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    I am wondering since it tis the season....if Phantom is looking to breed and that is why he or she is cranky??
    Michelle
    Lets just say it has advanced to ....way too much to list

  5. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-18-2009
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    I'm hoping that's all it is. The thought had crossed my mind, but I thought only females got snippy. Maybe he's really a girl? One of these days I'll take the 45 minute drive to have them both probed. I feel silly when people ask what gender they are, and my sentence ends in 'I think'.

  6. #6
    BPnet Lifer Kaorte's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-24-2008
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    8,773
    Thanks
    2,211
    Thanked 2,580 Times in 1,923 Posts
    Images: 13

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    You said they are sporadic eaters, which makes me think that feeding them in their home enclosures might make them more consistent.

    He struck you and held on, which means it wasn't a "go away" bite and could be an "im hungry" bite. Try feeding in the home enclosure and see if they eat more often and if the aggression stops. Many snakes are easily stressed when moving around for feeding.
    ~Steffe

  7. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-18-2009
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    -headdesk-


    I've always been told that feeding them in the cage makes them aggressive to things entering the cage, which is why I don't feed them in the cage. But, if they don't eat at all, I guess it defeats the point. I can try feeding them in the cage if that will help.

    Phantom has been snappy with me tonight, even though he last ate a small rat 2 days ago, and 2 small rats 2 days before that. Should I give in and feed him again?
    Last edited by LadyBall; 11-18-2009 at 08:51 PM.

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-03-2009
    Location
    Hickory, NC
    Posts
    108
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts
    Images: 11

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    I have one big girl who got meaner as she got older. At first there were no problems. After about a year she started to strike every once in a while. Then came serious hissing and striking all the time, even once I got her out and into my hands. This year she was big enough to try breeding. For some reason, in the past month since I have been cycling a male through her cage she has completely calmed down. Could have been just hormonal changes??? None of my others are that way. I hope they never get that way. Nearly All the others I have are a year or older and are great.

  9. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-03-2009
    Location
    Hickory, NC
    Posts
    108
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts
    Images: 11

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    FWIW, I have always fed all of them in their cages and only had issues with the one female.

  10. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-18-2009
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Behavior/Weight Issues.

    Food in the cage it is, I guess!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1