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    New to Breeding, What to choose???

    Hey, there are so many options around Im not sure where to start. I was thinking about a pinstripe x lesser breeding for a chance of kingpins but now Im thinking about a mojave x lesser breeding for a chance of BluEL. But to be honest im just confused about where to go because of all the options.

    What would you (personally) think would be a good place to start?

    Also first post so woo!

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    Re: New to Breeding, What to choose???

    First, welcome to the site!

    As for your question, it all depends on what really appeals to you morph-wise. Also depends on your starting budget, since not everyone can afford to make Axanthic Killer Bees their first season - LOL. So, what is your budget to start, and are you just looking to get one breeding pair? When I first asked about getting into breeding, the veterans here said basically the following to me...

    - If you don't have a lot to invest right away, start with a normal female (preferably with some size already) and a co-dominant or dominant morph male; Pastel, Spider, Mojave, Lesser, etc. Then you at least have a chance at visual morphs in the first clutch, unlike when you're breeding recessive genes.
    - Find your ultimate snake, like the Axanthic Killer Bee I mentioned above, and figure out the starting formula... which in this case would be Spider, Super Pastel & Axanthic. Pick two (or one with a normal), and get started on that project!

    And a few sites, which have been really helpful to this newbie too:
    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ollection.html
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard (also check out their morph list)
    http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html
    Last edited by Lolo76; 09-30-2009 at 06:25 AM.
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    Re: New to Breeding, What to choose???

    If I were just starting out. I would purchase two or three different codom females, and then a double codom male. For example, a bumblebee male, lesser female, cinny female, and a yellow belly female. That would give you many different combos, and all breedings would give you a chance at producing triple codom animals. If you are buying hatchlings, you should buy the females one year in advance. They take about a year longer to mature than males.
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    Re: New to Breeding, What to choose???

    Thanks for the advice people. At the moment I proberly only have the money for 1 male 1 female of the lower end morphs, pastel/spider/pinstripe/lesser etc which together are around £800/£900 (which is got to be around $1300 USD) which isnt expensive in royal terms but still.

    When I think about it I would say my ultimate snake really is just the simple the blue eyed leucistic, Which means I have answered my question lol

    I think im going to go for mojave/LP.

    At the moment im not really looking for a massive breeding plan. Just a mini one that will keep my mind occupied for the time being. Also Thanks for the links, I will give them a flick thorugh.


    Edit : Am i right in thinking a Mojave x LP breeding will give each egg the a 1/4 chance of being a BEL, Mojave, Lesser or a normal?
    Last edited by DarkSean; 09-30-2009 at 07:10 AM.
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    Re: New to Breeding, What to choose???

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSean View Post
    Edit : Am i right in thinking a Mojave x LP breeding will give each egg the a 1/4 chance of being a BEL, Mojave, Lesser or a normal?
    Yes you are, and it sounds like you have a good plan.
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    Re: New to Breeding, What to choose???

    Quote Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    Yes you are, and it sounds like you have a good plan.
    Cool! thanks again for the help. Lets just hope the odd gods are with me when I finally get around to breeding lol, With my luck I will be a bunch of normals.
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    Re: New to Breeding, What to choose???

    Quote Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    If I were just starting out. I would purchase two or three different codom females, and then a double codom male. For example, a bumblebee male, lesser female, cinny female, and a yellow belly female. That would give you many different combos, and all breedings would give you a chance at producing triple codom animals. If you are buying hatchlings, you should buy the females one year in advance. They take about a year longer to mature than males.
    I agree totally. Bees are getting cheaper by the day and for your price range you might be able to work a Bee and a Lesser which would give you a bunch of combo possibilities. Queen Bees ! Not to mention Lesser bees, Lessers, Pastel and Spiders.

    http://www.snake-zone.com/genetics/list/
    Last edited by trott; 10-01-2009 at 02:32 PM.

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