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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    Quote Originally Posted by snakelady View Post
    I can see the reasoning behind the ban on ASF's. If they did "get out" and establish themselves they could potentially become another nuisance and problem with the local environment.

    You have to remember overpopulated rodents can cause lots of damage to crops, historically carry diseases and plagues, are can become a nuisance just about everywhere in cities and on farms alike.
    I disagree.

    Normal Rats and mice are not illegal in Georgia. IMHO, normal rats and mice pose just as much of a threat as ASF's. They also die from the same poisons.

    Keep in mind, the same argument you are supporting is being used to try to ban lots of things... including ball pythons.

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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    "Normal" Rats aren't even normal rats, they're from the Netherlands...

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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    that said, for all you home-bodies, i doubt the dept of agriculture is going to bust your door down and steal your ASF's...
    Don't be so sure about that. Some of the plant eating species of aquatic snails (those large mystery or apple snails) are banned from interstate shipment/travel. The USDA HAS been knocking on peoples' doors and taking them. These are SNAILS, and haven't been proven to be able to survive Pennsylvania winters, and certainly haven't been proven as a threat to our corn industry (lol). But, yes, they will come knocking on your door and confiscate/kill them. And, just to be clear, it isn't just Pennsylvania officers who are cracking down, people all over the US are getting snails taken from them. These are hobby breeders, some who were just keeping them as pets.

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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    unfortunately, mine will become the next feeders and then I hope it warms up enough to raise rats. Cause that's for outside!! I was really enjoying my babies too.

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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    Quote Originally Posted by grammie View Post
    unfortunately, mine will become the next feeders and then I hope it warms up enough to raise rats. Cause that's for outside!! I was really enjoying my babies too.
    What will you do with your breeders next winter though? They live 2 years on average. And the high heat that we have here in GA will actually not help your production - they don't produce well when they are hot.

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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    Well that really BITES!
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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    well i found out that they referedto as fancy mice in delaware but no ifo on a banned on asf .. either way I not gettign rid of my food source for the snakes.

    i keeop my asf in large glass tanks. so after the finish chewing up the metal water holder they have ot chew though the glass to get free. PLus I have an breeder premit for snakes 0 but it says extoic animal so I should be safe since i got it ..
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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    What will you do with your breeders next winter though? They live 2 years on average. And the high heat that we have here in GA will actually not help your production - they don't produce well when they are hot.
    youd have to keep them around 70 degrees tops

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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    Quote Originally Posted by grammie View Post
    unfortunately, mine will become the next feeders and then I hope it warms up enough to raise rats. Cause that's for outside!! I was really enjoying my babies too.
    Raising rats outside

    Do you really mean outside or in another building?

    Outside means they will be in the heat (not produce or die) - Exposed to the element - Being in contact with parasites - Exposed to diseases from wild rats - etc
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    Re: BAD news Georgia... :( ASF's BANNED

    Well every one from GA can come move to SD All the exotic animal law we have is that you can not import any wild preditory animal (the big cats, wild dogs, hyenas, bears, or members of the mustelidae family...badgers, skunks, otters/ferrets are ok) or tapirs and rhinos
    Most exotic animals would not suvive for long up here, the winters are too cold.

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