big daddy's wholesale

[waltah!]

I'm going to jump in here as well....

He is still a liar and a theif. He has for sale, posted, a pair of albino labyrinth, and albino Burmese Pythons. He's selling them as a new morph, when they are not. They are posted as "lavendar fader yada yada albino's". The thing with baby albino Burms is, when they first hatch, they have a lavendar tint to them, that fades as they grow. Some have a more pronounced color than others. Unless he imported a brand new morph in from SE Asia, its still just a T- Albino Burmese, from the same line that has been around since the 80's. As well as that, the Fader Burmese Python NEVER proved genetic; so where did he get a genetic Fader?... Hence, he is trying to scam someone, or rip someone off. If you do not understand what I mean about the lavendar tint on baby albino Burms, I will attempt to get ahold of Jim Mason, or Mike Wilbanks to get some postable information.

Here is his ad.-
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=583783

And here are two screen shots in case he decides to pull his ads-
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2/bigdaddy.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_2.jpg

anyone notice that this ad has "expired or been removed"?....hmmmm. Feelin the pressure maybe? I hope so. What a tool.

[Big Daddy]

I don't sit by my computer all day like some. I have been busy today. I built new roads and new fields on my hunting land today and then managed to sell 16 snakes this evening. Let's start here.
I did not avoid this thread. I have stated all the time that I am a computer idiot. So when the thread got moved I could not access it and did not know who or how too. Thanks for the help getting it strait.
Secondly There was only one snake that had IBD. And I am still convienced the snake did not come from me. Check The dates on when the kid bought the snake and when the snake died. The snakes I sold at the philly show where newborns right out of their first shed. Which at most should have made the snake 4-5 weeks old. But the necropsy states the snake is a 6 month old snake. I even called the vet on the paperwork and he verified the snake was much older than 4-5 weeks. I had tests done on one of the snakes I carried to the show and had blood drawn from my boas. All tests were negative. I have said before, I deliver to The University they charge a flat 100.00 for lab results. The doctor does things for me through a student work schedule. It gives the students hands on and I might add that AU is 2nd in the country in their veteranary teachings. Anyway I do not get anything in writing ever... Also you are mistaken about being able to find IBD in bloodwork. Please feel free to contact Pete Kahl personally to verify this statement as well. My proof to you is IBD runs it's full course in Pythons (Balls, Burmese, Retics,ETC) in 28 days tops. I am still in business and thriving. I have over 400 python eggs in the incubator at present and expect to have over 1100 by years end. That's just at this facility, Not including the various breeder loans I have going. There is no way that poorly cared for or sick snakes could be productive and breed successfully year after year. Next comes the selloff or dieoff, Neither is true. I buy out other breeders all the time. This year alone I bought 4 other breeders out. I keep the snakes I want and sell the rest. I am sure you are making reference to the sub-adult and adult snakes that I sold about the time this accusation was posted. If I was selling sick and infected snakes, We would have a major epidemic!!! You need to realize just how many snakes I sell in a year and how many different customers that includes. Not tooting my horn but get REAL! Finally I have added a new facility and a trailer to my business, But I still have the same old building that I started in. Funny how with all my legal problems and diseases and sewer condictions (just quoting others) I continue to grow and breed successfully year after year.
Next topic the lavender albino fader labby burmese. I bought the lavender albinos from over seas. I bought the faders and albino fader from here in the US. This is the first ever produced and say what you want but the guy who put the deal together for me on the lavenders bought 2.1 from me already and flew in and hand picked his. The fader gene is unknown and everyone who responded to the add was told that. I also have a fader to fader breeding in the incubator now and am waiting to see the results of that. I was not expecting to be given props for the snakes just like last season when I was the first to produce the stingerblast BP. Maybe this season will be different though, I have a clutch with a chance for a pastel lesser ghost 5 eggs and another clutch with a graziani line bee breed to an enchi 8 eggs in this one. Only time will tell! For now I will keep doing what I do and you keep doing what you do.
Oh one last thing, I went and took pics with out staging anything. I was not trying to give you a false impression of my facility. And if you think BHB does not go through their containers prior to filming to make sure everything is picture perfect before rolling tape, YOU ARE SILLY!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

[joepythons]

I don't sit by my computer all day like some. I have been busy today. I built new roads and new fields on my hunting land today and then managed to sell 16 snakes this evening. Let's start here.
I did not avoid this thread. I have stated all the time that I am a computer idiot. So when the thread got moved I could not access it and did not know who or how too. Thanks for the help getting it strait.
Secondly There was only one snake that had IBD. And I am still convienced the snake did not come from me. Check The dates on when the kid bought the snake and when the snake died. The snakes I sold at the philly show where newborns right out of their first shed. Which at most should have made the snake 4-5 weeks old. But the necropsy states the snake is a 6 month old snake. I even called the vet on the paperwork and he verified the snake was much older than 4-5 weeks. I had tests done on one of the snakes I carried to the show and had blood drawn from my boas. All tests were negative. I have said before, I deliver to The University they charge a flat 100.00 for lab results. The doctor does things for me through a student work schedule. It gives the students hands on and I might add that AU is 2nd in the country in their veteranary teachings. Anyway I do not get anything in writing ever... Also you are mistaken about being able to find IBD in bloodwork. Please feel free to contact Pete Kahl personally to verify this statement as well. My proof to you is IBD runs it's full course in Pythons (Balls, Burmese, Retics,ETC) in 28 days tops. I am still in business and thriving. I have over 400 python eggs in the incubator at present and expect to have over 1100 by years end. That's just at this facility, Not including the various breeder loans I have going. There is no way that poorly cared for or sick snakes could be productive and breed successfully year after year. Next comes the selloff or dieoff, Neither is true. I buy out other breeders all the time. This year alone I bought 4 other breeders out. I keep the snakes I want and sell the rest. I am sure you are making reference to the sub-adult and adult snakes that I sold about the time this accusation was posted. If I was selling sick and infected snakes, We would have a major epidemic!!! You need to realize just how many snakes I sell in a year and how many different customers that includes. Not tooting my horn but get REAL! Finally I have added a new facility and a trailer to my business, But I still have the same old building that I started in. Funny how with all my legal problems and diseases and sewer condictions (just quoting others) I continue to grow and breed successfully year after year.
Next topic the lavender albino fader labby burmese. I bought the lavender albinos from over seas. I bought the faders and albino fader from here in the US. This is the first ever produced and say what you want but the guy who put the deal together for me on the lavenders bought 2.1 from me already and flew in and hand picked his. The fader gene is unknown and everyone who responded to the add was told that. I also have a fader to fader breeding in the incubator now and am waiting to see the results of that. I was not expecting to be given props for the snakes just like last season when I was the first to produce the stingerblast BP. Maybe this season will be different though, I have a clutch with a chance for a pastel lesser ghost 5 eggs and another clutch with a graziani line bee breed to an enchi 8 eggs in this one. Only time will tell! For now I will keep doing what I do and you keep doing what you do.
Oh one last thing, I went and took pics with out staging anything. I was not trying to give you a false impression of my facility. And if you think BHB does not go through their containers prior to filming to make sure everything is picture perfect before rolling tape, YOU ARE SILLY!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

Allen why did you duck out on answering the question from Wes last night? You were here earlier tonight but said nothing.So basicly its back to the same old excuses you are being picked on huh? You keep saying you are selling snakes left and right but NOBODY has ever come forward with anything positive.Why not? Oh i forgot you ask them to remain silent .Go get them TJ Hooker

[JKBReptiles]

Allen,

Basically you cages are dirty and it's the kind of grit that takes a while to build up and those pictures show it after all you took them yourself.... I'm sorry but smeared pooh on the inside of a cage can be wiped off if its fresh but that cage looks a bit crusty. Your collection needs better maintnance...

[babygerl3094]

I don't sit by my computer all day like some. I have been busy today. I built new roads and new fields on my hunting land today and then managed to sell 16 snakes this evening. Let's start here.
I did not avoid this thread. I have stated all the time that I am a computer idiot. So when the thread got moved I could not access it and did not know who or how too. Thanks for the help getting it strait.
Secondly There was only one snake that had IBD. And I am still convienced the snake did not come from me. Check The dates on when the kid bought the snake and when the snake died. The snakes I sold at the philly show where newborns right out of their first shed. Which at most should have made the snake 4-5 weeks old. But the necropsy states the snake is a 6 month old snake. I even called the vet on the paperwork and he verified the snake was much older than 4-5 weeks. I had tests done on one of the snakes I carried to the show and had blood drawn from my boas. All tests were negative. I have said before, I deliver to The University they charge a flat 100.00 for lab results. The doctor does things for me through a student work schedule. It gives the students hands on and I might add that AU is 2nd in the country in their veteranary teachings. Anyway I do not get anything in writing ever... Also you are mistaken about being able to find IBD in bloodwork. Please feel free to contact Pete Kahl personally to verify this statement as well. My proof to you is IBD runs it's full course in Pythons (Balls, Burmese, Retics,ETC) in 28 days tops. I am still in business and thriving. I have over 400 python eggs in the incubator at present and expect to have over 1100 by years end. That's just at this facility, Not including the various breeder loans I have going. There is no way that poorly cared for or sick snakes could be productive and breed successfully year after year. Next comes the selloff or dieoff, Neither is true. I buy out other breeders all the time. This year alone I bought 4 other breeders out. I keep the snakes I want and sell the rest. I am sure you are making reference to the sub-adult and adult snakes that I sold about the time this accusation was posted. If I was selling sick and infected snakes, We would have a major epidemic!!! You need to realize just how many snakes I sell in a year and how many different customers that includes. Not tooting my horn but get REAL! Finally I have added a new facility and a trailer to my business, But I still have the same old building that I started in. Funny how with all my legal problems and diseases and sewer condictions (just quoting others) I continue to grow and breed successfully year after year.
Next topic the lavender albino fader labby burmese. I bought the lavender albinos from over seas. I bought the faders and albino fader from here in the US. This is the first ever produced and say what you want but the guy who put the deal together for me on the lavenders bought 2.1 from me already and flew in and hand picked his. The fader gene is unknown and everyone who responded to the add was told that. I also have a fader to fader breeding in the incubator now and am waiting to see the results of that. I was not expecting to be given props for the snakes just like last season when I was the first to produce the stingerblast BP. Maybe this season will be different though, I have a clutch with a chance for a pastel lesser ghost 5 eggs and another clutch with a graziani line bee breed to an enchi 8 eggs in this one. Only time will tell! For now I will keep doing what I do and you keep doing what you do.
Oh one last thing, I went and took pics with out staging anything. I was not trying to give you a false impression of my facility. And if you think BHB does not go through their containers prior to filming to make sure everything is picture perfect before rolling tape, YOU ARE SILLY!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

ok, honestly (IMO), this is the same ole story that u have been sayin from the other thread just usin different wordin.... but u are only statin... ur not showin any proof to back up anythin that u say... and to be honest even for a school, and one that teachin non the less, im sure that they can produce the paper work if u asked for it....

now as for BHB maybe ur right, they clean the cages the same day they film, but hey not on anyone of those films have i ever seen poop smeared everywhere or on the side of their cages or dirty cages...they opened their doors for the world to see what they do on a normal basis...and explain what they do each day.. so how can u honestly compare ur upkeep with theirs ??

and u seemed to have avoided all the questions i ask about the pics.. are there any answers for any of them ?

[wilomn]

I had no idea there was a blood test for IBD.

Here all this time I thought you either needed to necropsy a dead snake or take a liver biopsy from a living one.

allen, can you site any resource for this blood test?

Oh wait, let me put that in a language you'll understand.

buc buc buc
buckaw buckaw buc buc
buc buckaw buc buc buckaw

There ya go.

[belvis]

OMG!!!!!!!


Are you people for real. Last month you were on a witchhunt and JNJ was in your sites. I love how you all act so tough behind your computers. You love to criticize and attact people in groups.

Some of you have a BP for 3 weeks and all of a sudden you're experts. This hole Big Daddy Drama is old news GET OVER IT>
If you don't like him, don't buy from him. You love to promote certain BOARD MEMBERS, "for great to buy from" yet they send out snakes with RI's Ticks Mites and other things, YET they are not FLIPPERS so it's all good.

I will not come back to this FORUM-------I have a higher standard then to listen to whining dogs all day long.

[Beardedragon]

OMG!!!!!!!


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I will not come back to this FORUM-------I have a higher standard then to listen to whining dogs all day long.

Then leave! Go out and buy from someone that will destroy your already healthy snakes, cant say we didnt try to help

[aaramire]

OMG!!!!!!!


Are you people for real. Last month you were on a witchhunt and JNJ was in your sites. I love how you all act so tough behind your computers. You love to criticize and attact people in groups.

Some of you have a BP for 3 weeks and all of a sudden you're experts. This hole Big Daddy Drama is old news GET OVER IT>
If you don't like him, don't buy from him. You love to promote certain BOARD MEMBERS, "for great to buy from" yet they send out snakes with RI's Ticks Mites and other things, YET they are not FLIPPERS so it's all good.

I will not come back to this FORUM-------I have a higher standard then to listen to whining dogs all day long.

Regardless of whether this is old news or not, it still matters. After all, once a liar always a liar, imo. We want to make sure that everyone knows who the bad guys are and who we think they should not buy from. I gurantee you there are new members who did not know about the story with Allen before this thread. I think it is important to get the news out there because what if he does have IBD in his collection still, and he is selling snakes cheaper than the going rate, so someone who doesnt know his past could buy from him and then bring the disease back to their collection, resulting in devastation? Who do we blame then?

[belvis]

WOW_______________send me your masters in biology-----how about---------------------proof-----------you--------know--------what---------your--------talking----about---------------------------------.