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    There is a huge difference in temperment and imo growth speed depeding on ur stock.

    3 colonies and 2 came from one source and 1 came from a different one.

    The lone colony is shy and nervous all the time.. The other two are super curious and friendly. Standing looking out of the tub soon as its open.

    I noticed about 30 days difference in growth rate too. The lone tub took the full 4 months to be ready to go. The other 2 tubs had litters within 3 based on birth dates i was given.. Ill have better records and proof now that there producing and i can hold back myself

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    Genetics are key. I like these guys alot. They are a great feed source. Even with there slow growth rate. I just invested in a 27 tub rack to bump up production from my current 6 tub.

    AND Even with 27 tubs. Ill still be better off then with a few tubs of horible smelling mice.
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    I want to start breeding rats to feed my balls but is it actually worth it frozen are only like 80 cents I just don't know lol seems like you guys have a great start

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    I've been breeding ASF's for years and years also. Mine don't bite, an occasional nip from a protective momma, but overall, they are more docile than most of my mice.

    But, I still hate them.

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    Re: ASF's have changed a lot over the years. More people should consider them.

    Quote Originally Posted by spankege View Post
    I want to start breeding rats to feed my balls but is it actually worth it frozen are only like 80 cents I just don't know lol seems like you guys have a great start
    Depends on how many you have. It's worth it if you have a good collection, I'd say 3-4 or more.

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    I bred them 3 diff times. Each time for a year at a time.

    All 3 times came from different sources from different parts of michigan and Ohio. Each time They were mean and Chewed the racks if i didnt have chew blocks in.

    I dont have snakes that eat them, so i was breeding them and dropping off at BHB, and others that needed them. But it was PITA to deal with adults attacking my hand everytime id wean

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    Re: ASF's have changed a lot over the years. More people should consider them.

    I started my colony almost 2 years ago! I would occasionally get bit. I always would feed off the nippy ones. This tread made me sit back and think. I can't remember the last time that I got nipped from a ASF. All of my girls let me reach under them and take babies away. I even started breeding some groups of 2.8 without any fights. I have about 12 tubs of them right now. I have selectively bred them to be white. I'm not sure if this is linked to temperament, but most of my colony is all white ASF's. I almost feel bad feeding the little boogers now

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    It's definitely not linked to temperament, my meanest ones are from you.
    Although, my sweetest one is a BEW, too.

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    Re: ASF's have changed a lot over the years. More people should consider them.

    Maybe I just got lucky with mine. I separated the original group I got into 2 colonies. 1 for color and 1 for temperament. These same rats from the breeder I got them from will rush across their tub and maul his tongs. Even the tub selected for color is friendly. They'll rear up like a hamster and squeak qith their eyes closed, but will not bite. All are very curious. I'll see if the "temperament" tub gets progressively more outgoing, but I also think part of it is how you interact with them.

    Breeder I got them. From uses tongs and admittedly isn't very nice to them. I started off handling them before they had their first litters, and gently scoot them off their babies. They're neat little critters to work with, and I have a couple that will let me scritch their heads while they close their eyes and stretch out their legs

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    Re: ASF's have changed a lot over the years. More people should consider them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhasputin View Post
    It's definitely not linked to temperament, my meanest ones are from you.
    Although, my sweetest one is a BEW, too.
    I used to get bit every time I cleaned. I fed off all of my old breeders and don't get bit anymore.

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    I haven't been breeding them for long (just got my starter colony from another member here about a month ago) but I have yet to get bit. When I check food and water each night, I reach my hand in the tub and rub the backs of each of the breeders and they seem to like it. I also try to touch the babies as much as I can so they get used to the idea...
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