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    Amazing! Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Desert Lesser x Desert Spider female

    The Desert is a relatively new morph of Ball Python that presently has two lines. Both Stan Chiras and Peter Kahl have proven them and are presently working with them. This is the history of them as told to me by Stan.

    Around 2001 Stan Chiras purchased his original Desert male as a 350 gram import. At the time of purchase it was assumed to be a Desert Ghost. When it got up to size to breed it was bred to a Normal Female and the offspring were expected to be Normal looking Het Desert Ghost. Much to his surprise two of the babies looked just like the Father. Around this same time Peter Kahl imported a like animal that he also thought was a Desert Ghost. His Desert did the same thing as Stan’s. Stan and Peter compared their animals and determined that they were the same thing. Instead of being a Simple Recessive trait it appears to be Co-Dom. That should be proven sometime soon, as both Stan and Peter will be breeding Desert-to-Desert trying to produce a Super. Hopefully it will not be a White Snake. LOL

    I was able to see this incredible new morph at the 2007 Daytona show. Both Peter and Stan had them available and both of them had a few crosses (I will show some pictures of the crosses a little further down the page), with them. Stan had a slightly better selection of then so I ended up purchasing one from him. She was the very nicest Female he had. Here are some pictures I took of her the first day she arrived.

    ..... So since 2001-2007 your telling me no one made a female Dessert to do a Dessert x Dessert breeding ???
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    0.1 Leopard Pied
    0.1 VPI Axanthic Het Pied
    1.0 VPI Axanthic Pied

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    I've heard that female deserts usually don't get much bigger than 1000-1200 grams and then they stop eating and being difficult... in NERDs recent "what not to breed together" video, they say that they haven't tried desert x desert... but also that they don't want to even try it... based I think on past breeding fails (namely the ones that they discuss in the video) and the fact that nobody has come out and said that they've done it yet.

    So essentially, what you're saying...

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPythons
    ..... So since 2001-2007 your telling me no one made a female Dessert to do a Dessert x Dessert breeding
    ???
    Good luck with this project, it would be awesome to see the results.

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    Re: Desert Lesser x Desert Spider female

    Nice!! Can't wait to see the results!
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    Re: Desert Lesser x Desert Spider female

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPythons View Post
    ..... So since 2001-2007 your telling me no one made a female Dessert to do a Dessert x Dessert breeding ???
    I am in complete agreement with you on this point, but I think the pictures are trying to dispell one of the rumors of the females not achieving breeding size.

    I am hoping to see some viable eggs and some awesome looking babies out of this pairing.

    So now we wait.

    Robyn, was she paired with anything else?
    Last edited by Failshed; 05-13-2011 at 01:11 PM.

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    Re: Desert Lesser x Desert Spider female

    A Desert Female cannot produce a clutch Why are they so expensive then? I cant believe thats true... Robyn you work at Pro Exotics yes? You guys have never had a female desert produce a clutch of healthy eggs.... ever?
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    Re: Desert Lesser x Desert Spider female

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Dodge View Post
    A Desert Female cannot produce a clutch Why are they so expensive then? I cant believe thats true... Robyn you work at Pro Exotics yes? You guys have never had a female desert produce a clutch of healthy eggs.... ever?
    Not proven or dis-proven yet. No one REALLY knows yet, but I for one am hoping that this pairing shows us some answers.

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    Any news on this pairing?

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    Update?? Please.
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    1.0 Cinny het Albino
    0.1 Albino
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    0.1 BEL (Lesser x Mojave)
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    update please.


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