Lesser and Piebalds crossings?

[Danish newb]

Hello BP'ers 8)

Cant seem to figure this out.
What could i get and with what odds will i have with crossing:

Lesser Pastel x Lesser
Lesser Pastel x Lemon Pastel

And havent seen any Piebald x Lesser crossings, how would that turn out? A Piebald with Lesser markings or?

Thanks in advance, regards Mads!

[snake-zone.dk]

Male = Pastel, Lesser
Female = Lesser

Offspring predicted as:

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12,50% Normal
12,50% Pastel
25,00% Lesser
25,00% Pastel, Lesser
12,50% Blue Eyed Leucistic
12,50% Pastel, Blue Eyed Leucistic

The same for the Lemon Pastel thats just another line of pastel..

Ralph made some Pied lessers some time back...
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/lesser-pied/

[OhhWatALoser]

its not the same

Lesser Pastel x Lesser

12.5% Normal
12.5% Pastel
25% Lesser
25% Lesser Pastel
12.5% BEL
12.5% Pastel BEL

Lesser Pastel x Lemon Pastel

12.5% Normal
25% Pastel
12.5% Super Pastel
12.5% Lesser
25% Lesser Pastel
12.5% Super Pastel Lesser (I donno if this has been made yet? if it has I wanna see pics)

[Danish newb]

Thanks for the quick answers guys.

Well is there any difference in the apperance of a Pastel BEL and a normal BEL?

The Pastel Lesser that i could get from pairing a Pastel Lesser x Lemon Pastel, would have a good chance for getting the Lemon-color in the Lesser Pastel right?
Didnt knew i had a chance for producing a normal Super Pastel to, thats kinda awesome
And Super Pastel Lessers has been produced saw several on the net, and the first in Denmark even hatched here a couple of days ago! 8)

EDIT: So judging from the video a Piebald with Lesser-markings has never been produced? Maybe they'll all turn out pure white?

[Royal Morphz]

Here is the Lesser Pied produced by Ralph Davis in 2007
YouTube - 07 - Piebald Lesser Platty

[snake-zone.dk]

its not the same

Lesser Pastel x Lesser

12.5% Normal
12.5% Pastel
25% Lesser
25% Lesser Pastel
12.5% BEL
12.5% Pastel BEL

Lesser Pastel x Lemon Pastel

12.5% Normal
25% Pastel
12.5% Super Pastel
12.5% Lesser
25% Lesser Pastel
12.5% Super Pastel Lesser (I donno if this has been made yet? if it has I wanna see pics)

Sorry my mistake.. it has bin a long way home after the hamm show..

I miss read the last part..

[Lucas339]

wouldn't that be a super lesser pied?

i would like to see an acutal pied with the coloring of the lesser.

[nixer]

wouldn't that be a super lesser pied?

i would like to see an acutal pied with the coloring of the lesser.

no thats a lesser pied its just all white
in the video he says that

[RegiusCo]

Adam Wysocki at 8 Balls claimed on another post that Lesser Pieds that were not all white have been produced, I PM'd him for more info and never got a reply so who knows!

[OhhWatALoser]

Well is there any difference in the apperance of a Pastel BEL and a normal BEL?

the only Pastel BEL I've ever seen was a super mojave pastel and it cleaned up its dirtiness a little bit, but still wasn't pure white.

I don't know if anyones made anything other BEL with pastel, i wouldn't see the point besides offspring would look cooler. but i can't see the BEL looking any different since it lacks all pigment anyways,