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Killer Bee Pied????

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  • 01-20-2009, 10:07 PM
    SGExotics
    Killer Bee Pied????
    I saw a video with this kid telling you how to produce a killer bee pied. He said one has already been produced? Let me know what you think, oh and heres the vid...YouTube - killer bee piebald ball python
  • 01-20-2009, 10:11 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    IDK, but the Bee pied has been made so Im sure that it could be out there. BTW the the way the kid explained how to make it is wrong.
  • 01-20-2009, 10:21 PM
    ThyTempest
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    the way the kid explained it will work just fine....not the best chances or the best way to go about it....but correct
  • 01-20-2009, 10:22 PM
    JKExotics
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    I'm pretty sure you can't do that, if anything you would if anything need 2 killerbees het for Pied. Don't quote me on this one, not into designer pieds myself.
  • 01-20-2009, 10:24 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThyTempest View Post
    the way the kid explained it will work just fine....not the best chances or the best way to go about it....but correct

    He says " Breed the killer bee to the peid and get killer bees 100% het pieds" instead you would get pastels and bees 100% het pied.

    He has one for sale with DBDs name on it ( no joke)

    http://secure.onlineplugins.com/roussis/available.cfm

    Edit wait no he does not, he has it labled as " Killer pied" but instead it is just a super pastel pied.
  • 01-20-2009, 10:25 PM
    panthercz
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    Like beardedragon already stated, that is not how you would produce a killer bee pied. A killer bee x a pied would not give you any killer bees. Just bumble bees and pastels het for pied.
    What is it about the killer bee that people just don't understand??
  • 01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
    ThyTempest
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    My bad guys, just went through the vid again. I filled in the gaps in my head without realizing.
  • 01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by panthercz View Post
    Like beardedragon already stated, that is not how you would produce a killer bee pied. A killer bee x a pied would not give you any killer bees. Just bumble bees and pastels het for pied.
    What is it about the killer bee that people just don't understand??

    Im wondering the same thing. Ive lost count of how many people know genetics but get killer bees mixed up. I mean, all it is is a super pastel spider:taz:
  • 01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
    RhacHead
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThyTempest View Post
    the way the kid explained it will work just fine....not the best chances or the best way to go about it....but correct

    Actually he said you would get a Killerbee het pied from a Killerbee x Pied pairing.That isnt correct but rather wishful thinking....
    Bestcase scenario you would get a bumblebee het pied.If you bred two of those together you would have a chance at a killerbee pied.The kid is obviously interested in snakes and genetics so I'm not trying to trash him rather point him in the right direction.

    OK In the time it took me to post his mistakes were pointed out.I wasnt trying to be redundant.
  • 01-20-2009, 10:52 PM
    LGL
    Re: Killer Bee Pied????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DBD View Post
    I saw a video with this kid telling you how to produce a killer bee pied. He said one has already been produced? Let me know what you think, oh and heres the vid...

    I'm not going to correct his genetics since it has already been done above. I just wanted to point out that if you were trying to produce a Killerbee Pied, it could be done with as little as a Bee het Pied to a Pastel Het Pied. Even though a Killerbee het Pied x Killerbee het Pied does increase your chances of producing the Killerbee Pied, it'd be better to pair a Bee het Pied with a Super Pastel het Pied or pair a Bee het Pied with a Pastel Pied. If you are taking the route that was suggested in the video, there's no need to have both snakes carry all of the genes when you are working with co-dom and dom morphs. Since there hasn't (to my knowledge) been a proven Homozygous Spider (and it is assumed that there isn't a "Super Spider" in the sense that it physically differs from the Heterozygous form), there is no need to include the Spider gene on both sides of the equation. It does increase your chances that each baby has of receiving the Spider gene, but it also adds multiple years of unneeded work to raise up that additional animal/generation.
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