dreamsicle market price

Didnt you read my prior post 9my first one, that says breed het offspring back to mom, then breed the male visuals from that back to the females of the first generation of snakes)? You will greatly increase your chances, and if you dont produce the visuals you can keep your double het male. If, of course, you produce the correct snakes.

And, yes, a lot of breeding is luck. It's all a game of dice and you're betting that resources will be ready and that those resources will turn up a few diamonds.

Ugh, that's kind of a lot of inbreeding.

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Originally Posted by loonunit

Ugh, that's kind of a lot of inbreeding.

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Not extremely, if you consider the whole 13 generations of inbreeding with little negative effect (remember hearing this around here). Alternatively you could invest in multiple female pieds, use those, and then breed accordingly, then breed back to the females from the f1 generation.

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Did Justin ever say how long it took him?

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Justin has a secret stash of luck because it only took him roughly 3-4 years I believe, and he hit on it the first try.

Man hatches out Pastel Piebalds on accident, then discovers a 3rd gene involved with his Yellow Belly Piebalds, then he hatches out a Dream on the first try, and so far this year he hatched out Honey Bees on accident. Saying the dude is Blessed is an understatement.

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Originally Posted by PrototypePythons

Ralphie is no longer the only source for Dreamsicles, Justin Kobylka produced a male last year, and he is hard at work this year so chances are Justin might have a few more up his sleeve. Not sure of the females he put him too, but I am sure he has some adult double hets laying around.:gj:

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I know Justin produced one last year, but I still think Ralph may be the only one with them available for sale right now. Maybe Justin will post if he has produced any more since the first one or if that male was able to breed in its first season. If his visual male didn't breed it's still kind of a longshot to produce another one with double hets but with Justin's luck he'll probably hit 6 of them. But who knows. I am sure it is possible that one of the more secretive breeders has a few by now.

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Justin has a secret stash of luck because it only took him roughly 3-4 years I believe, and he hit on it the first try.

Man hatches out Pastel Piebalds on accident, then discovers a 3rd gene involved with his Yellow Belly Piebalds, then he hatches out a Dream on the first try, and so far this year he hatched out Honey Bees on accident. Saying the dude is Blessed is an understatement.

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I was just going to ask if anybody had seen the honey bees this week. Spider-to-normal pairing, no less!

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I know Justin produced one last year, but I still think Ralph may be the only one with them available for sale right now. Maybe Justin will post if he has produced any more since the first one or if that male was able to breed in its first season. If his visual male didn't breed it's still kind of a longshot to produce another one with double hets but with Justin's luck he'll probably hit 6 of them. But who knows. I am sure it is possible that one of the more secretive breeders has a few by now.

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So far I've only produced the one Dreamsicle. He did see a couple of girls late this season, but they were backed up with other males, so there is no guarantee for anything better than 1:16 again this year. Seems like whenever a younger male is bred along with a proven stud, the offspring comes from the proven breeder.

I been very fortunate over the past few seasons! Other than the Honeybees (huge surprise!), my odds have not be extraordinary this season... didn't get any Ivories from Pastel YB x YB.

Hopefully I'm saving up my good fortune for some of the really cool stuff in Sept / October!

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Justin has a secret stash of luck because it only took him roughly 3-4 years I believe, and he hit on it the first try.

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3 years waiting for pied to grow up before I bought an adult Lavender male. Then switched my plans and sent my Lav to Peter Kahl on loan to produce my Dbl Het Dreams. I was very fortunate to get my female dbl het Dream to produce at 24 months and then hit the odds on 6 eggs. All in all I working toward the project for a full 5 years could easily have been more with poor odds or if the female Dbl Het had required the full 3 years.


Justin

I have 07 double het pair...im willing to trade for a kidney if anyones interested.:gj:

In all reality though, I cant wait until I have a baby dream in one of my tubs!

It is 2014 and what is the current price on Dreamsicles? :) I can't find one that is for sale.

No one?