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  • 05-08-2012, 12:57 PM
    Crewpsu
    Help Negotiating
    Hello everyone,
    First off would like to introduce myself to everyone. I recently purchased a fantastic male killer bee that I'll post pics of in a different thread but need some advice on the female I have my eyes on for him.

    The seller is asking $1600 shipped. I'm thinking of offering $1400 with me meeting the seller at an upcoming show they plan on attending for pick up (no shipping). I don't want to offer to little and cause insult. What do you guys think?

    Thank you in advance
  • 05-08-2012, 01:03 PM
    mikel81
    Re: Help Negotiating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crewpsu View Post
    Hello everyone,
    First off would like to introduce myself to everyone. I recently purchased a fantastic male killer bee that I'll post pics of in a different thread but need some advice on the female I have my eyes on for him.

    The seller is asking $1600 shipped. I'm thinking of offering $1400 with me meeting the seller at an upcoming show they plan on attending for pick up (no shipping). I don't want to offer to little and cause insult. What do you guys think?

    Thank you in advance

    Is the female also a killer bee? A weight will go a long way in helping determine the value. And if you have a picture, those are always nice. ;)
  • 05-08-2012, 01:22 PM
    Crewpsu
    No the female isn't a bee, She is around 300 grams.
  • 05-08-2012, 01:25 PM
    Slim
    Re: Help Negotiating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crewpsu View Post
    No the female isn't a bee, She is around 300 grams.

    Then what morph is she?
  • 05-08-2012, 01:31 PM
    crossbonecorns
    300 grams and $1600... better be a heck of a snake, there are plenty of morphs you can get an adult female for that price that will blend well with a kbee.
  • 05-08-2012, 01:48 PM
    Crewpsu
    She is a black pewter blast. Sorry all, was trying to be discrete incase the seller stopped by.
  • 05-08-2012, 01:49 PM
    Crewpsu
    Also the seller was recommended through this forum and is reputable.
  • 05-08-2012, 01:53 PM
    Slim
    Hard to say what she's worth with out photos, but I understand the situation probably won't allow you to post any.

    If the original selling price was $1600, then $1400 is probably too low. Offer $1475 and offer to pick up at the show. See where the breeder want's to go from there.
  • 05-08-2012, 02:08 PM
    Simple Man
    What's she worth to you? I've always picked my snakes and then made offers. I've picked up snakes for much less than anyone would ever expect. I'm straight to the point, no BS, instant payment and easy to deal with. I say this while I'm negotiating. It's a lot easier to negotiate if you're going to pay cash instantly. There's nothing wrong with aiming on the low side. The seller might counter you and they might not. If they counter, you meet somewhere inbetween and offer again. I've saved upwards of $500-600 on a snake by doing this. I also never offer on a snake I'm not set on buying if they do meet me in the middle somewhere. I never stretch my budget so much that I have no room for flex in my offer. Just a few things I've picked up negotiating snakes :) Good luck!

    Regards,

    B
  • 05-08-2012, 02:09 PM
    Simple Man
    Re: Help Negotiating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crewpsu View Post
    Hello everyone,
    First off would like to introduce myself to everyone. I recently purchased a fantastic male killer bee that I'll post pics of in a different thread but need some advice on the female I have my eyes on for him.

    The seller is asking $1600 shipped. I'm thinking of offering $1400 with me meeting the seller at an upcoming show they plan on attending for pick up (no shipping). I don't want to offer to little and cause insult. What do you guys think?

    Thank you in advance

    PS. There is nothing wrong with asking for help. If the seller strolls on by then they should be happy you have enough interest in the snake to make an offer. People always try to be so secretive in this hobby :) Best of luck!

    Regards,

    B
  • 05-08-2012, 02:24 PM
    Annarose15
    Re: Help Negotiating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crewpsu View Post
    Hello everyone,
    First off would like to introduce myself to everyone. I recently purchased a fantastic male killer bee that I'll post pics of in a different thread but need some advice on the female I have my eyes on for him.

    The seller is asking $1600 shipped. I'm thinking of offering $1400 with me meeting the seller at an upcoming show they plan on attending for pick up (no shipping). I don't want to offer to little and cause insult. What do you guys think?

    Thank you in advance

    I think $1400 is reasonable to offer. If you do the quick math, a show pickup saves ~$50 on shipping, and then the other $150 is basically 10% off. Offer to pay cash or cashiers check, or some other manner that doesn't cost them a processing fee (3% lost on PayPal). If they decline or counter, just be ready with whether or not you still want her, and let them know one way or the other.
  • 05-08-2012, 02:33 PM
    zues
    Re: Help Negotiating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Annarose15 View Post
    I think $1400 is reasonable to offer. If you do the quick math, a show pickup saves ~$50 on shipping, and then the other $150 is basically 10% off. Offer to pay cash or cashiers check, or some other manner that doesn't cost them a processing fee (3% lost on PayPal). If they decline or counter, just be ready with whether or not you still want her, and let them know one way or the other.

    x2
    I don't think 10% off is in any way a lowball offer. Not saying he will take it but he shouldn't be insulted. If I were selling a snake for 1600 shipped I would almost always take 1400 cash face to face. By the time you add in shipping box, heat pack, snake bag, and time shipping usually runs more than 50 bucks. How long before you can meet him at the show? Are you willing to give him a deposit?
  • 05-08-2012, 02:50 PM
    Crewpsu
    Willing to give whatever he wants now as a deposit and the rest in cash at the show. The next show he has listed he will be at is the June 9th Hamburg show. Thanks everyone for the advice.
  • 05-08-2012, 07:42 PM
    Crewpsu
    Hello everyone again, just wanted to say that the seller and I came to a deal I think we are both happy with. That being said I'll share some more info. The ball in question is a black pewter blast as mentioned from Colin Weaver over at ECRB. I'd post a link showing you all the pictures he has of her but wasnt sure that's allowed. She is the only black pewter blast he has up for sale.

    Can't wait to pair her with my killer bee in a few years and shoot for a killer widow pin.
  • 05-08-2012, 08:33 PM
    Simple Man
    Re: Help Negotiating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crewpsu View Post
    Hello everyone again, just wanted to say that the seller and I came to a deal I think we are both happy with. That being said I'll share some more info. The ball in question is a black pewter blast as mentioned from Colin Weaver over at ECRB. I'd post a link showing you all the pictures he has of her but wasnt sure that's allowed. She is the only black pewter blast he has up for sale.

    Can't wait to pair her with my killer bee in a few years and shoot for a killer widow pin.

    Congrats! Can't wait to see some pics. Colin has some amazing animals.

    Regards,

    B
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