punnett square questions about pieds and spiders

I currently have het piebalds and was wanting to add spiders. I understand how the het piebald punnett squares look and how they work. Could someone show me what a piebald x spider punnett square would look like and what a 100% het piebald x spider would look like? If I understand correctly the piebalds are recessive and the spiders are dominate? These squares would involve the larger configurations instead of the 4 squared punnett correct? I just wasn't sure what that would look like or what percentages would appear from the offspring. Thank you so much for your help!
-April

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wi...h83&female=d91

This is what the punnett square would look like. As for the babies they would be either look normal or look like a spider.

Check it out:http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wi...h83&female=d91

You can see the punnett square there. A Spider X Het Piebald pairing would result in:
25%Normal
25%Spider
25% het. Piebald
25%Spider het. Piebald

The problem with this pairing is you will have no way to figure out which normals and which Spiders got the Piebald gene passed to them and which didn't. The only way to tell is to raise them and breed the babies to prove them, which is obviously time and rat consuming and may lead to a big disappointment.

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Originally Posted by dragonboy4578

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wi...h83&female=d91

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Beat me to the punch!:rage:

I get lucky once in a while....lol

Well shoot. How do I make a piebald spider then? A spider with the white piebald blotches? I've seen photos of them.
Thanks everyone for jumping on answering my question so quickly. I am sitting here thinking about my next reptile show purchase and where my future plans are going.

Take a spider and a pied, breed them, you get 50% het pieds, 50% spider het pieds

spider het pied back to the pied gives you 25% spider pied, 25% pied, 25% spider het pied, 25% het pied.

you could buy a spider het pied and breed it to your het pied and have a 1/8 chance of getting a spider pied.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

Take a spider and a pied, breed them, you get 50% het pieds, 50% spider het pieds

spider het pied back to the pied gives you 25% spider pied, 25% pied, 25% spider het pied, 25% het pied.

you could buy a spider het pied and breed it to your het pied and have a 1/8 chance of getting a spider pied.

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Thank you so much! That was just the info I was looking for!
Everyone is so nice and helpful here :)

The Piebald Spider AKA The Spied is a very awesome morph. There are a number of ways of making one but you have to remember in order to make a animal that expresses the Piebald morph both parents have to be at least het for Pied.

I am currently attempting to make a Spied from a male Pied to female Spider het for Pied (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...66#post1518866) paring. Although they are still a few years away from breeding size><

or you could pair up a male Spider het Pied to some Pied girls either way if you use the Spider het Pied X Pied combo your odds for each egg are:
25%Het Piebald
25%Piebald
25%Spider Het Piebald
25%Spied!

Whatever way you choose good luck! In my humble opinion the Spied is one of the most beautiful and interesting morphs out there.
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/image..._spider/4L.jpg

Hi,

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Originally Posted by lusciousdragon

Well shoot. How do I make a piebald spider then? A spider with the white piebald blotches? I've seen photos of them.
Thanks everyone for jumping on answering my question so quickly. I am sitting here thinking about my next reptile show purchase and where my future plans are going.

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Just to double check something.

This is what a spied looks like.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/spied/

Your description make me think you are picturing something else?


dr del