This one is challenging

[rufretic]

I think you hit them all but the spider gene here (as I don't really see much spider influence at all) - Black Pastel Disco Fire OD Pastel

This is one of my top choices, the only reason I'm not set on it is because I've had two other breeders that think they see spider influence but I only see it in the head, when the head popped out I was sure it had spider but now looking at the body pattern I have my doubts. The big thing is though, it seems to have a bit of wobble and none of the other genes are known for that. But your guess is still in my top 3.
I'm hoping to get some better pattern shots of the whole body including sides and that should help. I'm just waiting for her to have her first meal, hopefully tomorrow.

I couldn't tell you a morph if I had to......

But Gorgeous Snake, it does look like someone took an eraser and erased the color off the top of her head.

Thank you! Yeah the head is different that's for sure. I love the spots surrounding the edge.

[Godzilla78]

I think you may have hit all the genes, the typical spider pattern is just washed out by all the other genes.


Kaos Balls

[rufretic]

I think you may have hit all the genes, the typical spider pattern is just washed out by all the other genes.


Kaos Balls

This is what I'm leaning towards as well.

I believe it's one of these three combos

All but spider
All but blk pastel
All 6

My one breeder friend definitely thinks there is spider for sure but no black pastel because there is pastel and he thinks if it hit both their would be a pewter look which is a good point but I have seen at least one other large gene combo that had both and did not look pewter. So my guess is because of so many other genes something is causing it to still have color because when I look at the side pattern, I do see black pastel influence.

So my best guess right now is all 6 genes as well.

I still plan to show some better pics of the pattern to get some additional opinions but give me a couple days, I'm hoping she eats tomorrow.

Thank you for all the input so far, I really appreciate it!

[JodanOrNoDan]

When the genes start to stack it gets harder and harder to tell. This season I produced what I believe to be an Enchi, Phantom, Super Pastel Spider that looks like it could be that ones sibling.

[rufretic]

When the genes start to stack it gets harder and harder to tell. This season I produced what I believe to be an Enchi, Phantom, Super Pastel Spider that looks like it could be that ones sibling.

Thanks for your input.
So is it safe to assume your vote goes towards it having spider as well?

[JodanOrNoDan]

Thanks for your input.
So is it safe to assume your vote goes towards it having spider as well?

Yup

[rufretic]

So I offered her a hopper last night and the dumb thing hopped into the water dish and drowned! All my other hatchlings had eaten their hoppers and that's all I had. So I decided might as well heat it up and try to get her to take it dead, to my surprise this little girl snatched it up without thinking twice! Pretty good for her first meal so I have a feeling this little girl is going to be a ferocious eater and should do just fine. That's a relief because she was way behind coming out of the egg so I wasn't even sure she was going to make it but I thought for sure she was going to be a problem getting eating, but nope, ended up being the first to take dead so I'm sure she'll be no problem getting on f/t as well. Anyway my point was just to let you guys know she ate and I'll get some better pics tonight or tomorrow.

[rufretic]

Not sure if these pics will shed any new light on her genetics but they were enough to secure my decision to keep her, I like her lol.

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[rufretic]

Sorry pics are so small and out of focus, tapatalk changed them, let's see how medium looks.

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