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Male Blackbee
Here is a pic of my male black bee (black pastel, spider) which is also 100% het for ghost. She was produced and purchased from Colin Weaver.
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Re: Male Blackbee
So to me it looks no different from a normal spider. What can you see that would distinguish it from just a normal spider.? Obviously if you know that it is a black pastel/spider you know that you can produce both black pastels and spiders from it, but if one didnt know is there some way to tell visually that thier spider is infact a blackpastel/spider. It would be nice to know so that in the future one could avoid a scam artist wh tries to tell you thier normal spider is a black pastel spider when its not just to try and get more $ out of you.
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Re: Male Blackbee
looks like a regular spider to me...how much did you pay for it?
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Corn snakes: 1.0 blood, 0.1 het blood, 0.1 snow, 0.0.1 reverse okeetee
Geckos: 2.1.2 crested gecko, 0.0.1 leopard gecko
Boas: 1.0.1 sand boas
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Re: Male Blackbee
I'd be having a word with Mr Colin Weaver If I was you.
Het hypo it may be, but I can't see anyhting other than spider in that.
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Re: Male Blackbee
perhaps the breeder had bred a spider to a black pastel and assumed all the offspring would be crosses. With spider being dominent and the black pastel being codom, the litter would be a mix of spiders, black pastels, i think some normals, and some black bees. I could be wrong and Im not sure on what the odds would be, Im thinking 25% of each. Im no good with the squares .
either way he could have made that mistake.
ok so researched black pastel spider and found this
called a black widow
http://www.constrictors.com/images/B...BlackWidow.jpg
Last edited by Stewart_Reptiles; 04-17-2009 at 11:21 AM.
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1.0 50% het clown 1.0 50% het lavender 2.6 normal bp 1.0 normal poss axanthic 1.0 het pied bp 1.0 yellow belly 1.0 mojave bp 2.0 spider bp 2.1 pastel bp1.1 Cinnamon bp
7.0 corns - normal motley stripe het snow,anery a het hypo, snow, red candy cane, motley stripe orange candy cane, anery motley possible ghost , butter motley 0.6 corns -amel,high white amel,creamsicle,ghost, snow, orange candy cane 1.0 albino jungle corn, 1.0 mexican black king, 1.0 california king, 1.0 milk snake 0.1 kenyan sand boa 0.1 dummerils boa 1.1 bci normal, 0.1 pastel bci,0.1 kahl albino bci,1.0 salmon het kahl albino bci, 0.1 guatamalan boa 0.1 hogg island boa 1.0 JCP 0.1 woma python 3.0 leos-normal,blizzard,rw albino,rw b blizzard 0.7 leos-normal,hypo tangerine,mack snow,albino, rwb blizzard,raptor, rw albino 0.1 C. Turneri (thick toed gecko)1.1 crested gecko0.1rose hair T. 0.0.1 black emporer scorpion
1.0 beardie
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Re: Male Blackbee
Even if he bred a black back, and a spider together....where is the 100% het ghost coming from? to get a 100% het animal you would need to have bred a visual morph to either of those to guarentee the animal carrying that gene.
I would give this guy a call
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Re: Male Blackbee
maybe it was a spider bred to a ghost but would that give you 100%het?
not sure where the black pastel would come into it though
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Re: Male Blackbee
Looks like a normal spider to me.
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Re: Male Blackbee
 Originally Posted by Kryptonian
perhaps the breeder had bred a spider to a black pastel and assumed all the offspring would be crosses. With spider being dominent and the black pastel being codom, the litter would be a mix of spiders, black pastels, i think some normals, and some black bees. I could be wrong and Im not sure on what the odds would be, Im thinking 25% of each. Im no good with the squares .
either way he could have made that mistake.
ok so researched black pastel spider and found this
called a black widow
http://www.constrictors.com/images/B...BlackWidow.jpg
that is a spider-pastel-black pastel, the Op thinks he has a spider-black pastel.
The snkae you've posted a picture of is a triple co-dom, not a double. That has 'regular' pastel thrown in there too.
Last edited by Stewart_Reptiles; 04-17-2009 at 11:21 AM.
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Re: Male Blackbee
It doesn't look like a Cinna bee / BP bee.. but its still a nice spider.. Maybe the pic is just misrepresenting the colors.
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