Ralph Davis Clutch Gone Wrong

[MasonC2K]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yogrIDKAQR0

I feel sorry for the blind one. Props to him for posting this. He really does give you the good, bad, and the ugly of snake breeding in his videos.

[panthercz]

That sucks! Poor little fella...

[420boa]

do those snakes have to be put to sleep? I was wondering if they would have feeding problems with mouth deformites like that

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Why is anyone surprised that Mother x Son has the potential to produce deformities?
He's inbreeding.

They should all be culled to prevent the deformities from being spread into the BP gene pool, no question...However...I know Ralph sells these animals locally which disgusts me.

[stangs13]

Why is anyone surprised that Mother x Son has the potential to produce deformities?
He's inbreeding.

They should all be culled to prevent the deformities from being spread into the BP gene pool, no question...However...I know Ralph sells these animals locally which disgusts me.

Huh?

[sho220]

Why is anyone surprised that Mother x Son has the potential to produce deformities?
He's inbreeding.

They should all be culled to prevent the deformities from being spread into the BP gene pool, no question...However...I know Ralph sells these animals locally which disgusts me.

If they're able to eat, drink, poo, shed...I see no problem in rehoming (I'm not sure about selling) them, provided they aren't bred further. How do you know he sells them? And what happens to them after that?

This applies to those that aren't so deformed that they are probably miserable...

[starmom]

Why is anyone surprised that Mother x Son has the potential to produce deformities?
He's inbreeding.

They should all be culled to prevent the deformities from being spread into the BP gene pool, no question...However...I know Ralph sells these animals locally which disgusts me.

WHAT are you talking about?????????????

[N4S]

Why do breeders do this?

If certain morphs and what not have a tendency of deformities then why not stop breeding those particular ones?

It's like asking for trouble IMO.

Why not stop attempting to breed them instead of having deformed snakes being born and then having to either kill them or let them die on their own?

It just doesn't seem right to me.

If you are trying to have a child and the first 3-4 babies come out with disabilities or deformities, are you going to keep trying?

Maybe someone could make me look at it differently but I don't know.

[TripleMoonsExotic]

If they're able to eat, drink, poo, shed...I see no problem in rehoming (I'm not sure about selling) them, provided they aren't bred further.

The reason why is because their is no guarantee that the new owner will not breed the snake...Thus spreading that crap into the gene pool. It's not different then those schmucks selling the boa constrictors and RESs with missing eyes.

How do you know he sells them? And what happens to them after that?

Because I have a friend that purchased one of his deformed females (she's missing half her bottom jaw) 2nd hand from whom he sells them to. He sells the deformed ones that function alright to a guy in Pennsylvania.

WHAT are you talking about?????????????

What exactly aren't you understanding? He says right in the video that it's from breeding mother to son. While he doesn't go into detail on how far back the inbreeding has been done, an f1 Mother x Son generally won't produce deformities. It's when you do it a lot that you get nasties like that.

Why do breeders do this?

Money. Plain and simple. MONEY.

[sho220]

So I take it you're not an RDR fan.

It's definitely something to consider, but you're giving us info from a friend who got something second hand from someone else who may have gotten the animal from RDR. How does your friend know the animal was ultimately from RDR? Did the seller just voluntarily give out the info that he was re-selling deformed animals that a big time breeder was selling?