about breeders that dont allow visitors?

[cinderbird]

I have plans in the future to expand my ball python collection to include a few morphs. For the most part I know what I want, and for the more expensive morphs I may breed a little bit to get them. Since I have time before I get them (a year at least unless something exceptional comes up) I've been emailing breeders, close to where I live or travel (upstate NY or eastern PA) to see their facilities and look at their breeding stock and stuff to deside who I want to buy from later.

I've run into some breeders who dont allow "outsiders" to visit their facilities. I understand this is a business and each business owner has their own methods of running their business.. but i perfer to see what im going to buy IF possible as i know tons of people buy from big breeders and have thier animals shipped with no problems, but I figure, if i can save 50.00 on shipping because i DRIVE BY the place, that is 50.00 worth of food or bedding that i can have for my animals.

What do you guys think about this business pratice?

I feel like im being forced away. Pictures CAN lie, i'm a photographer, i know this better than most.

[LadyOhh]

Picture this...

Stranger comes into your facility, cases the place, comes back, steals ALL THE ANIMALS.


There you go. That is why.


Trusting people is hard. Shipping is easier.

[Nate]

I don't see a problem with having a closed facility. Some people run their business out of their home and probably don't want strangers in their home just because they wanna see some snakes because they might buy one later (or scope out their home for theft attempt)...

[cinderbird]

I don't see a problem with having a closed facility. Some people run their business out of their home and probably don't want strangers in their home just because they wanna see some snakes because they might buy one later (or scope out their home for theft attempt)...

And lady Ohh, i cant figure out how to quote two things

This is the reason im given most often. Theft or attempted theft is the reason they no longer allow visitors.

[littleindiangirl]

I have plans in the future to expand my ball python collection to include a few morphs. For the most part I know what I want, and for the more expensive morphs I may breed a little bit to get them. Since I have time before I get them (a year at least unless something exceptional comes up) I've been emailing breeders, close to where I live or travel (upstate NY or eastern PA) to see their facilities and look at their breeding stock and stuff to deside who I want to buy from later.

I've run into some breeders who dont allow "outsiders" to visit their facilities. I understand this is a business and each business owner has their own methods of running their business.. but i perfer to see what im going to buy IF possible as i know tons of people buy from big breeders and have thier animals shipped with no problems, but I figure, if i can save 50.00 on shipping because i DRIVE BY the place, that is 50.00 worth of food or bedding that i can have for my animals.

What do you guys think about this business pratice?

I feel like im being forced away. Pictures CAN lie, i'm a photographer, i know this better than most.

There are liabilities with letting people into a facility to see the animals, that do incur certain insurance policies in case something were to happen.

Also, they have a large collection of animals, if you were to go to a pet store, handle the animals and bring something with you into their facility it could be quite damaging.

Reputable breeders will always try to ensure that the pictured animals are represented honestly, but also to that cannot guarantee the color on your monitor.

Finally, I have to restate that they aren't a pet shop and really don't have to let you come and hand pick them in person. If you wanted to see the animals in person and the breeder attends shows, I would think this is a better avenue as the breeder has complete control over how his animals are brought back into his facility.

So in all, I don't think a breeder has any obligation to let you in his building, and if he were to let you in, it would be a special visit.

If this were simply a pick up, I can see the value in going to meet the breeder, but I don't know why it has to be hand picked in person. Again, honest breeders will represent their animals honestly in pictures.

[Nate]

And lady Ohh, i cant figure out how to quote two things

in each post, there's this little icon:

just click that and it will do a multi-quote for you.

This is the reason im given most often. Theft or attempted theft is the reason they no longer allow visitors.

So, does this bother you? or is that reason not a good one?

[littleindiangirl]

Picture this...

Stranger comes into your facility, cases the place, comes back, steals ALL THE ANIMALS.


There you go. That is why.


Trusting people is hard. Shipping is easier.

Excellent point, I overlooked.
I'm already paranoid of others as it is, this is the icing on the cake.

[LadyOhh]

I say this...

I have had people on this forum into my house. Into my snake room.

They know what is there and where they are...

Do I trust them?? Yes.

Do I trust everyone?? Heck no...

I would rather bring animals to a safe location between than have every customer in my house...

[Patrick Long]

being ripped off, and bugs.

[Nate]

being ripped off, and bugs.

and this guy: