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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    sound slike a ufc fight

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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Hi,

    OK I seem to be selectively blind in this instance.

    Can someone explain to me in words of 3 syllables or less how to tell the difference between lessers and butters?

    Is it all colour, or is there a pattern difference? I feel so dumb for not being able to spot it.


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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    OK I seem to be selectively blind in this instance.

    Can someone explain to me in words of 3 syllables or less how to tell the difference between lessers and butters?

    Is it all colour, or is there a pattern difference? I feel so dumb for not being able to spot it.


    dr del

    I personaly believe butters and lessers are just different blood lines of the same gene, kind of like Axanthics. Butters do look to be a bit more hypo from what I have heard.

    I also believe that lessers and butters, mojaves, phantoms are basicly different versions of the same gene but happen to be on a different loci (in other words the "damaged" gene is the same, but happens to be on a different chromosome)

    But I don't really have a way to prove this and may be totaly wrong

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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Lesser all day long, I like them both but If I had to choose I'm going with the Lesser.

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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Quote Originally Posted by ajeff View Post
    I personaly believe butters and lessers are just different blood lines of the same gene, kind of like Axanthics.
    I think there may be some newer Axanthic lines that are just different lines but the original VPI, TSK, and Jolliff lines appear to be different genes all together. They are just all called axanthics based on what the animal looks like but I think it would be more accurate to call them different mutations that different lines.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajeff View Post
    I also believe that lessers and butters, mojaves, phantoms are basicly different versions of the same gene but happen to be on a different loci (in other words the "damaged" gene is the same, but happens to be on a different chromosome)
    While I do agree on those (and several others - Vin Russo, special, and hidden) appearing to be the same gene I don't think that gene moves at all (right?). I think they are just each mutated in slightly different ways. I'm not sure exactly how the start and end of a gene is defined but within the gene I believe there is a quite a bit of information and it looks like multiple different mistakes have happen to this particular gene.

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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    I'm in this same boat too. I want to get a lesser or a butter this spring but I'm not sure which one I should get. I've seen Butters and Lessers on Kingsnake for about the same price but I don't really think I'd trust a $650 Butter from Kingsnake. I've seen a few lessers right now that I REALLY like but I highly doubt they'll be available in 5 months and if they are they won't be $650 lol.

    Which one makes a cleaner BEL or are they about the same?

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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronP View Post
    Lesser all day long, I like them both but If I had to choose I'm going with the Lesser.
    Well I hope you'd rather want a lesser!

    Who can tell the difference between a lesser and a butter?


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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Well I hope you'd rather want a lesser!

    Who can tell the difference between a lesser and a butter?


    http://s454.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=DSC00600.jpg
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    1st one is the lesser at least thats the way it looks to me at least but sometimes they are so close its impossible to tell.

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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Well I hope you'd rather want a lesser!

    Who can tell the difference between a lesser and a butter?


    http://s454.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=DSC00600.jpg
    http://s454.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=IMGP8146.jpg
    I'm gonna have to say the first one is a butter and the second one is a lesser. Although the second pic is just a little darker. Comparing the butters to the lessers I saw in person at the Tinley show, the butter have a darker golden tint to them then the lessers did.

    I'm trying to find my darn camera that I've misplaced after the show this weekend otherwise I would snap some pics of the butter male I got from the Bells.
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    Re: Next: Lesser vs Butter

    I wonder if anyone can tell me, How about butter x lesser?

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