Large constrictor ban

[AndrewUSAF]

As some of you may be aware then been an docket being proposed to put a ban on large constrictor snakes. They say the main basis of it is because of ones that are being released into the wild by irresponsible owners (surprise surprise) Im providing a link that lets you download the document and also lets you leave a official comment on it. This is an official site for gov't dockets so all comment should be well written, no internet forum jibba-jabba. Theres also info for if you want to mail in a letter. Lets hope this doesnt get passed, I know i dont want to lose my Eve.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...000064803a565f

[nixer]

thats all boas and pythons not just large constrictors!

[Patrick Long]

already a huge thread of this going on. join there

[jjspirko]

You know the two facts that are being ignored are

1. The burms in the Glades ain't going to migrate very far north. They won't make it to VA like some of those stupid maps say. There is nothing preventing them from going north in Asia and they don't. Why? Weather below freezing is FATAL to them.

2. It is not even people letting them go that created the problem in South Florida. That is one of the biggest lies since the false passing of the 16th amendment (for those that don't know it created the income tax). You see most of the burm population in South Florida has its' roots in Hurricane Andrew in 1992 when many burms were "freed" by houses being blown flat.

With Florida being a meca for importing reptiles many got away. After more then 15 years now a healthy breeding population has built up. There are more every year because of BREEDING not released animals. This is the same in Cozumel there are boas everywhere from 8 released in the 70s.

Even we in the community are wrong to blame "Irresponsible Keepers" for this issue. Sure some of that happens but the massive numbers set free by a natural disaster are the seeds of the Burm population in South Florida. You have to ask yourself this as well, why only Burms? Why are there not boas, retics and bloods all over the Glades if it is "Irresponsible Keepers". Could it be because Burms are perfectly adapted for the Everglades and therefore self supporting at this time? You bet it is.

[JASBALLS]

You know the two facts that are being ignored are

1. The burms in the Glades ain't going to migrate very far north. They won't make it to VA like some of those stupid maps say. There is nothing preventing them from going north in Asia and they don't. Why? Weather below freezing is FATAL to them.

2. It is not even people letting them go that created the problem in South Florida. That is one of the biggest lies since the false passing of the 16th amendment (for those that don't know it created the income tax). You see most of the burm population in South Florida has its' roots in Hurricane Andrew in 1992 when many burms were "freed" by houses being blown flat.

With Florida being a meca for importing reptiles many got away. After more then 15 years now a healthy breeding population has built up. There are more every year because of BREEDING not released animals. This is the same in Cozumel there are boas everywhere from 8 released in the 70s.

Even we in the community are wrong to blame "Irresponsible Keepers" for this issue. Sure some of that happens but the massive numbers set free by a natural disaster are the seeds of the Burm population in South Florida. You have to ask yourself this as well, why only Burms? Why are there not boas, retics and bloods all over the Glades if it is "Irresponsible Keepers". Could it be because Burms are perfectly adapted for the Everglades and therefore self supporting at this time? You bet it is.

But boas and retics are all over the place in the everglades.. More research Man!

[jjspirko]

But boas and retics are all over the place in the everglades.. More research Man!

There are boas and retics there yes. Yet no where near the number of burms. There is no "Boa Everglades Research Project" while there is a "Burmese Python Research Project". The climate is acceptable for Boas, Retics and Bloods but not the way it is for Burms.

My point is only that it is not like a pile of these things are let go every day the way the media makes it out and sometimes we seem to do as well. These populations are now self supporting and if NO MORE were released ever it would still be hard to put the Genie back in the bottle and the original stock came more from escape during a major hurricane then jerks letting snakes go.

There are more burms because they are better adapted to the habitat, that is all.