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Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
I am thinking of getting some ASFs. My friend has decided to keep her store open after all, and has about 5.5 of these in. I was on my way to work and thus did not buy them yet.
So how are they to have? I love the fact that they do not get very huge, and the adults were just the size of rat that I feed my adult BPs.
How are yours on litter sizes? My friend said that hers are pretty nippy, especially a female with babies. I do not care, as they would be bred for snake feed, not as pets.
Any info or experience that you've had with them would be appreciated!
-Jen. Back in the hobby after a hiatus!
Ball pythons:
0.1 normal; 1.1 albino. 1.0 pied; 0.1 het pied; 1.0 banana.
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Re: Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
Run away fast J/K
I would be very carefull with 5.5 Why you ask? I started with 1.3 last Jan. and by x-mas i had over 90. They are not the end all be all some make them out to be. All my guys ate them like gang busters to start out but by June had to go back to rats as my crew would not even look at them for some reason.
Good Points
1- Litter size 12-16 a pop
2- No smell none
3- Size as adults
4- Easy to care for
Bad Points
1- They bite
2- Litter size you can get run over very fast
3- If your home is cold they will drop like flys
4- Waste of food
I know I'm missing alot but you get the point.
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Re: Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
I have about 20 ASF's...I have not bred them yet as they are still growing to breeding size....
I have to say, I keep them 1.3 or 1.4 in 10 gallon fish tanks...I go 2 weeks between cleanings and there is no smell..none....my problem is that they chew through water bottles all the time...I put 2x4 blocks in there and that slowed it down...
If I were you I would pick up the 1.5.....
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Re: Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
I'll vouch for the no odor thing.
Also, I have mine in plastic tubs....and wheels. They run the wheels like crazy, but the tubs are still intact a month out.
~Jess
Balls: 2.10 normal, 1.0 pastel, 2.2 het albino, 1.0 50% het pied, 1.2 poss. axanthic, 1.0 pinstripe, 1.0 black pastel,
Misc. snakes: 1.1 blood python, 1.0 Tarahumara Mountain kingsnake, 0.1 RTB
0.0.1 Red-eyed casque-headed skink
1.2 dogs (Lab, Catahoula, Papillon-X), 6.1 cats, 1.0 foster dog
6.4.8 ASFs
1.0 Very Patient Boyfriend
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Re: Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
I am actually moving to a rack system in the near future...I don't think they can chew through a brass sipper!
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Re: Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
Jen we have our original colony of ASF's in a large 30 gallon glass tank. We have a second trio we are just starting out in a smaller tank but they also have a 30 gallon for when they start producing litters. We keep only one mature male in with 2 females. This seems to produce a nice number of offspring that we can feed off quickly enough to avoid being overrun with ASF's.
Due to issues of possible prey imprinting we feed the ASF's only to certain snakes and will be starting any hatchlings we produce and intend to sell or trade on regular rats.
I do like the ASF's for their ability to get some of our snakes on a healthy eating pattern (especially the WC/LTC adults we have). I like that they don't smell and they produce consistently. I don't like that they tend to be nippy and you do have to watch them closely for that. They are also awful bottle chewers so I've gone to glass bottles for them. I haven't tried a wheel yet, so I may try that.
All in all, I'd say I enjoy my regular rats more but I completely appreciate the role ASF's have in our feeding program and am glad Mike talked me into trying them.
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Re: Considering ASFs.. have any advice?
I am actualy starting to think of getting a trio of them now! Yeah I wouldnt buy a snake if it was feeding on ASFRs unless I knew I could get a hold of some.
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