Leucistic/Snow kingsnakes?

[amarin.astarte]

Hey guys,

just out of curiosity, does anyone know a reputable breeder of snow kings? Hopefully one in AZ? As far as I know the snow kings are the patternless high-whites (because we know the issues with kingsnake morph names, don't we...? )

[wilomn]

There is a guy who produces snows. I don't believe there has been a leucistic as yet. I am totally blaking the name of the snow breeder, even though I've done business with him. He has ads on KS whenever he has babies.

I am TERRIBLE with names but if I can remember it I'll post it here.

There are several people out there selling highwhites and ivories as snows, but as far as I'm concerned the snow is an albino mutation in which no melanin is present at all.

Calkings are great snakes.

[amarin.astarte]

LOL! There's that problem with naming conventions with kings again! Which is why I mentioned both Leucy and Snow because one can never be too sure what's the official and what's the nickname! Whatever are we calling the little dears? Ivories and high whites and snows, oh my!

Thanks a lot! I don't know if it makes a difference since I don't plan to breed any of my babies if I get a high white or a snow or an ivory (that's a new one for me! :eek: ). Is the issue with those the pricing, or with genetics when it comes to passing off one for another? What I really want is a pretty all-snow-white king. I'm not sure what the eye colors on each of those other morphs are, do you know?

So many kingsnake morphs to collect, so little space...

[wilomn]

The snows I got, and I think the guy lived in Illinois, are pink/red eyed albinos with NO black.

Ivories, well I started calling them this back in the 80s when we'd cross coastal and desert blood. The mature individuals looked like old ivory, sort of yellow, though not as bright as a pure coastal and no where near the white of desert calking.

I figure anything that is 80% white is a good high white, just like anything with 80% yellow is a high yellow and 90% or more yellow is a banana. Of course there are some that are closer to 98% yellow that are even better bananas. I see a lot of 50-60% white/yellows as snows/bananas and they just aren't.

I still can't remember the breeders name I got the snows I had from and I gave them to someone else to work with. I'm thinking maybe it was Steve or Peter. I am SO bad with names.