Which Pythons???

[leosantare]

I'm trying to understand the top (3) python species to choose for a particular size. As most should know, when looking for any kind of pet, size is one of the most important things to consider. I have had many pythons in the past and I don't want something under 7ft or something well over 10ft in length. I'm looking for a python that will grow to a full adult length of about 9ft/2.7m and about 22lbs/10kg. I'm also looking for a python with medium girth in contrast to an Oenpelli Python, Nyctophilopython oenpelliensis having a very small/slender girth and a Sumatran Python, Python curtus having a very large/stocky girth. Also, whichever python I choose it will be a female, which will affect the adult size.

This should cross off many pythons from the list. However, I'm unsure of a few pythons. Such as the Macklots Python, Liasis mackloti, the Halmahera Python, Simalia tracyae and the Carpet Python, Morelia spilota a to name a few.

I realize there will be variations with size and there is no guarantee. However, like I already mentioned, I'm looking for the top (3) python species that will have the best chance at becoming this size. Currently, there are 38 species of pythons, actually 52 when including all the subspecies.


Antaresia childreni - Children's Python
Antaresia maculosa maculosa - Spotted Python
Antaresia maculosa peninsularis - Cape York Spotted Python
Antaresia papuensis - Papuan Spotted Python
Antaresia perthensis - Pygmy Python

Apodora papuana - Papuan Python

Aspidites melanocephalus - Black Headed Python
Aspidites ramsayi - Woma Python

Bothrochilus boa - Ringed Python

Leiopython albertisii - Northern White Lipped Python
Leiopython fredparkeri - Southern White Lipped Python

Liasis fuscus - Water Python
Liasis mackloti dunni - Dunn's Python
Liasis mackloti mackloti - Macklot's Python
Liasis mackloti savuensis - Savu Python
Liasis olivaceus barroni - Pilbara Olive Python
Liasis olivaceus olivaceus - Olive Python

Malayopython reticulatus jampeanus - Kayaudi Dwarf Reticulated Python
Malayopython reticulatus reticulatus - Reticulated Python
Malayopython reticulatus saputrai - Selayer Reticulated Python
Malayopython timoriensis - Timor Python

Morelia azurea azure - Northern Green Tree Python
Morelia azurea pulcher- Northern Green Tree Python
Morelia azurea utaraensis - Northern Green Tree Python
Morelia bredli - Centralian Python
Morelia carinata - Rough Scaled Python
Morelia imbricata - Southwestern Carpet Python
Morelia spilota cheynei - Jungle Carpet Python
Morelia spilota harrisoni - Irian Jaya Carpet Python
Morelia spilota mcdowelli - Coastal Carpet Python
Morelia spilota metcalfei - Inland Carpet Python
Morelia spilota spilota - Diamond Python
Morelia spilota variegata - Northwestern Carpet Python
Morelia viridis - Southern Green Tree Python

Nyctophilopython oenpelliensis - Oenpelli Rock Python

Python anchietae - Angolan Python
Python bivittatus bivittate - Burmese Python
Python bivittatus progschai - Dwarf Burmese Python
Python breitensteini - Borneo Python
Python brongersmai - Red Blood Python
Python curtus - Sumatran Python
Python kyaiktiyo - Myanmar Python
Python molurus - Indian Rock Python
Python natalensis - Southern African Python
Python regius - Ball Python
Python sebae - African Rock Python

Simalia amethistina - Amethystine Python
Simalia boeleni - Boelen's Python
Simalia clastolepis - Southern Moluccan Python
Simalia kinghorni - Scrub Python
Simalia nauta - Tanimbar Python
Simalia tracyae - Halmahera Python

[Armiyana]

I admit, I'm not well versed in the sizes and care specifics on many of the species. But... There may be quite a few like carpets that are harder to find in the trade, may only be wild caught or may be difficult to keep.

I think what may help narrow it down some is browsing something like the misc python listings on morph market. See what had been listed currently, maybe do a search on what had been sold and get an idea of what does seem available to you. Or even in the price range you're looking for.

From there you may be able to narrow it down a bit further. Obviously if you're looking for something more showy, a green tree may work for you but not if you want to handle them. That sort of thing as well as the size concerns

[plateOfFlan]

I have a simple solution but you're not going to like it:

get a boa constrictor

[YungRasputin]

P. sebae, P. bivittatus, P. b. progschai (depending on mainland dna %), S. amesthistina, L. olivaceus, S. kinghorni, P. natalensis, etc are all giant python species which can exceed 9+ feet and unfortunately, P. curtus are an ESA listed species - P. anchietae are super cool tho

[Bogertophis]

The Antaresia family is all going to be too small for you.

[leosantare]

As most should know, when looking for any kind of pet, size is one of the most important things to consider. I'm looking for a python that will grow to a full adult length of about 9ft/2.7m and about 22lbs/10kg. For me this is a perfect size, not too small and not too big. I'm also looking for a python with medium girth in contrast to an Oenpelli python, Nyctophilopython oenpelliensis which has a very small/slender girth and a Sumatran python, Python curtus which has a very large/stocky girth. Also, whichever python I choose it will be a female, which will affect the adult size.

This should cross off many pythons from the list for being under 7ft or well over 10ft. However, I'm unsure of a few pythons. Such as the Macklots python, Liasis mackloti, the Halmahera python, Simalia tracyae and the Carpet python, Morelia spilota a to name a few.

I realize there will be variations with adult size and there is no guarantee. However, I'm just looking for the top (3) python species that will have the best chance at becoming this size. This can be difficult since most of the information available differs. For example, I could ask this question to 10 different people and get 10 different answers. Currently, there are 38 species of pythons, actually 52 when including all the subspecies.


Antaresia childreni - Children's Python
Antaresia maculosa maculosa - Spotted Python
Antaresia maculosa peninsularis - Cape York Spotted Python
Antaresia papuensis - Papuan Spotted Python
Antaresia perthensis - Pygmy Python

Apodora papuana - Papuan Python

Aspidites melanocephalus - Black Headed Python
Aspidites ramsayi - Woma Python

Bothrochilus boa - Ringed Python

Leiopython albertisii - Northern White Lipped Python
Leiopython fredparkeri - Southern White Lipped Python

Liasis fuscus - Water Python
Liasis mackloti dunni - Dunn's Python
Liasis mackloti mackloti - Macklot's Python
Liasis mackloti savuensis - Savu Python
Liasis olivaceus barroni - Pilbara Olive Python
Liasis olivaceus olivaceus - Olive Python

Malayopython reticulatus jampeanus - Kayaudi Dwarf Reticulated Python
Malayopython reticulatus reticulatus - Reticulated Python
Malayopython reticulatus saputrai - Selayer Reticulated Python
Malayopython timoriensis - Timor Python

Morelia azurea azure - Northern Green Tree Python
Morelia azurea pulcher*- Northern Green Tree Python
Morelia azurea utaraensis - Northern Green Tree Python
Morelia bredli - Centralian Python
Morelia carinata - Rough Scaled Python
Morelia imbricata - Southwestern Carpet Python
Morelia spilota cheynei - Jungle Carpet Python
Morelia spilota harrisoni - Irian Jaya Carpet Python
Morelia spilota mcdowelli - Coastal Carpet Python
Morelia spilota metcalfei - Inland Carpet Python
Morelia spilota spilota - Diamond Python
Morelia spilota variegata - Northwestern Carpet Python
Morelia viridis - Southern Green Tree Python

Nyctophilopython oenpelliensis - Oenpelli Rock Python

Python anchietae - Angolan Python
Python bivittatus bivittate - Burmese Python
Python bivittatus progschai - Dwarf Burmese Python
Python breitensteini - Borneo Python
Python brongersmai - Red Blood Python
Python curtus - Sumatran Python
Python kyaiktiyo - Myanmar Python
Python molurus - Indian Rock Python
Python natalensis - Southern African Python
Python regius - Ball Python
Python sebae - African Rock Python

Simalia amethistina - Amethystine Python
Simalia boeleni - Boelen's Python
Simalia clastolepis - Southern Moluccan Python
Simalia kinghorni - Scrub Python
Simalia nauta - Tanimbar Python
Simalia tracyae - Halmahera Python

[leosantare]

I tried to fix my original post but couldn't. Therefore, I did it over in my previous post. Basically the same thing.

I'm thinking,
Aspidites melanocephalus - Black Headed Python
Leiopython fredparkeri - Southern White Lipped Python
Morelia spilota mcdowelli - Coastal Carpet Python
Simalia boeleni - Boelen's Python

Possibly,
Apodora papuana - Papuan Python
Liasis mackloti dunni - Dunn's Python
Liasis mackloti mackloti - Macklot's Python
Liasis mackloti savuensis - Savu Python
Morelia bredli - Centralian Python
Simalia clastolepis - Southern Moluccan Python
Simalia nauta - Tanimbar Python
Simalia tracyae - Halmahera Python

[YungRasputin]

your best bet is probably within the scrub python complex or the Morelia genus but idk how strict you are on the size parameters because while it’s a little rare, female black head pythons can exceed 9+ feet (and cost as much as a new car) - same thing with scrubs; while they’re likely to be 7-9 feet, it is quite possible and really easy for them to surpass that

with this being said, girth is an important thing to consider eg: my scrub python and my female mainland Burmese Python are the same length but because of girth, she makes him look like a rat snake - this being said, even with the girthier species like P. bivittatus, P. sebae, etc they still should be somewhat lean and “extreme girth” or rather, morbid obesity, is something which could be prevented thru a healthy, well balanced, moderated diet

best options i can think of given your parameters would be Centralian python (M. bredli), Coastal Carpet (M. s. mcdowelli), or Northern boas (B. imperator)

[YungRasputin]

i would also point out, not to put anyone off but i think it should be noted that while fatal encounters are extremely rare when it comes to large constrictors and while a 8-9 foot snake may be more manageable for most people - there have been people killed by an 8 foot Colombian red tail, 8 foot African rock, etc so large constrictors safety protocols should still be observed and smaller giants should be treated the same as those 10+ feet

[Homebody]

Reviewing progression threads can be a fun way to learn what it's like to keep different species. I found the following:

Aspidites melanocephalus - Black Headed Python
Leiopython fredparkeri - Southern White Lipped Python
Morelia spilota mcdowelli - Coastal Carpet Python
Simalia boeleni - Boelen's Python
Apodora papuana - Papuan Python
Liasis mackloti mackloti - Macklot's Python
Liasis mackloti savuensis - Savu Python
Morelia bredli - Centralian Python
Simalia clastolepis - Southern Moluccan Python
Simalia nauta - Tanimbar Python

Couldn't find a match for these. They must be pretty rare in the hobby.

Simalia tracyae - Halmahera Python
Liasis mackloti dunni - Dunn's Python