stop this barbaric practice

[steveo]

Yes the sick act of venomoids . Personaly it makes me feel sick , it serves no real purpose as most of the snakes die after this operation, even if the operation was safe and had a 100% success rate id still be against it... it is just plain wrong and should be outlawed
now im not sure if these online petitions come to anything but it cant hurt to sign it
heres a link to the petition site
http://www.aussiereptileclassifieds....TION/index.php

[Shaun J]

Lol, I must have signed that a long time ago because it won't let me sign.

[Ginevive]

That is a hideous practice; mutilating a snake some jack ass can keep it as a pet.. people really disgust me sometimes.

[steveo]

Indeed it is a very disgusting selfish act that beggars belief , i just cant help but get wound up about this subject every time it pops up or gets mentioned, i signed it just before i posted it on here , this petition also has the backing of Mark O'shea behind it so hopefully it will carry some weight

[brainman1000]

I'm sure I will take alot of heat for this, but is that any differant than fixing a dog or cat? I can understand that the way they do it is barbaric, but if they did it in a way that protects the snake as much as possible is it really that bad?

[MontyNSpike]

Fixing a cat or dog so they can't reproduce is way different than taking away a poisonous snake's venom sacks. The venom helps with the digestion process as well as killing the prey to be eaten. Fixing a cat or dog isn't barbaric either, unlike how the snake's venom sacks are removed, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but i've heard that sometimes the sacks can grow back or something. I'm pretty sure the fangs can grow back too, but don't quote me on that one either.

[Vomitore]

People want venomous snakes all for the reason of "want". Venmous snakes should be left alone to nature. Unless you are a trained venomous snake handler, then you should not be able to own one.

[greenmonkey51]

Fixing a cat or dog so they can't reproduce is way different than taking away a poisonous snake's venom sacks. The venom helps with the digestion process as well as killing the prey to be eaten.

I looked this up and Im pretty sure the venom has nothing to do with digestion and you'd be feeding F/T to any venomoid anyways. I don't see a lot of difference between this and declawing cats. I really don't see these petions doing anything really, If someone pushes this any legislature could easily say lets just ban all venomous snakes and that could get the ball rolling on other species and groups.

[MontyNSpike]

From the Wikipedia Free Encyclopedia on "Snake Venom"

Amino acid oxidases and proteases are used for digestion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_venom
From another site on "Snake Venom"

Venoms are rich in hydrolithic enzymes, a complex mix of polypeptides, nucleases, peptidases, etc., which help digest the snake's prey.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C007974/2_6sve.htm

So yes, the venom is used to help digestion of the prey, it shouldn't matter if the prey is alive or not. Why would you only be feeding f/t to a venomoid? The difference betweent this and declawing a cat is that, for one, cat claws aren't venomous, you're not going to get poisoned if your cat scratches you. Second, cats don't need their claws to digest food, like a poisonous snake does. Cats aren't going to die if you cut off their claws.

[steveo]

I looked this up and Im pretty sure the venom has nothing to do with digestion

Hemotoxins are seen in venomous animals, such as Pit vipers etc , Animal venoms contain enzymes and other proteins that are hemotoxic or neurotoxins or occasionally both (as in the Gaboon viper and similar species). In addition to killing the prey, part of the function of a hemotoxic venom is to aid digestion. The venom breaks down protein in the region of the bite, making prey easier to digest.

Greenmonkey check this site dude and be enlightened

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemotoxin