Pied-$$??

[ssscales]

At what price do you think Pied's will be at by this year end? I've seen some 05's as low as $3500 and as high as $8000 on KS, what is their market value?


I know it depends on % of white, but $3,500 seems too good to be true!

Is this about right?

[Wild Bill]

I know a couple people that have purchased male low-white pieds in the $3500 range, so that price seems right. Like you said I think the % of white has alot to do with it.

[ssscales]

If the 05's are going for as low as $3500-$4000, what will the price be for a nice 2006 around Sept/August? $3000-$4000?

Again, I know it depends on the % of white, but on average what will the 06's go for, guesstimate?

[jglass38]

Gerry, you considering getting into pieds and buying hom. animals? I want to get into it but I will prob do it with a 100% het male and some poss girls. I love pieds but am willing to take my time and try to prove out some poss animals. I am more keen on spending a chunk of change on a spider and producing some beeeeees.

[Adam_Wysocki]

If the 05's are going for as low as $3500-$4000, what will the price be for a nice 2006 around Sept/August? $3000-$4000?

Again, I know it depends on the % of white, but on average what will the 06's go for, guesstimate?

Why does the price have to go down?

-adam

[jglass38]

I want it to stay up where it is! Obviously everything drops eventually but as a new breeder, I want things to hold where they are (damn i'm selfish).

[ssscales]

Hi Jaime, this year end I plan on adding 1-2 real nice top of the line Pastel males, 3-4 100% Het Albino females and possibly a Spider male or Pied depending on $$$. I was considering Pied's, but didn't think I would have the resources to add them this year due to their $$$. I'm just curious on the Pied prices since just a few months ago I wouldn't see them under $5000, now I'm seeing them for $3500. Same thing for Spiders, just a few months back $5000 seemed to be the benchmark. Now, I see them for $3000-$3500, which means $2800 when you get down to it. Is it desperation in some sellers?

Is there a chance we could see Pied's for $3000 and under this year?


I know I want to produce Pastels for Supers, regardless of price drop.
I know I want to produce Albinos, regardless of price drop.

I know I want Spiders for Bumblebees, regardless of price drop.

[Adam_Wysocki]

Obviously everything drops eventually

I never understood why some people do that. It's a small timers mentality ... I guess they figure that their sales and marketing skills $uck so I'll drop the price and sell it cheap.

I didn't drop prices on a single mutation this year, and I'm almost sold out.

I actually charged more for pastels, albinos and het albinos, and het hypos this year than I did last year.

If it doesn't sell as a hatchling at my set price, it will fly out of here as an adult at the same price.

-adam

[JLC]

Why does the price have to go down?

-adam

I think people assume the price will go down because the number of animals being produced is going up. I guess...

But...Let's say 1000 people want to buy pieds each year. Last year, say only 500 were produced, so the price was high because demand far outweighs production. So, this year, maybe 600 are produced. Demand still far outweighs production so the chance of prices across the board going down are slim to none.

I suppose it's possible that because more "small-time" breeders are getting out there and trying to make names for themselves, you might be able to find a good deal on an individual pied, but that would be a lucky find, and not a reflection on the market as a whole.

That is my relatively un-educated take on the topic.

[jglass38]

Sounds like desperation/undercutting by some sellers. As with Pastels, some breeders still sell males at $1200 (and regularly sell them out) while others are undercutting everyone and selling at $500.