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    Question Some BRB Questions

    I recently got my second snake, a Brazilian Rainbow Boa, and as someone who's only owned Ball Pythons I'm unfamiliar on certain behaviors. I ordered an adult male (didn't think I would be ready for a nippy baby) and he came perfectly healthy. I kept him in a tub for quarantine and just recently he's been moved to his permanent enclosure. Temps are 75f ambient, 83f hotspot (UTH controlled with thermostat). Humidity is usually ~75%, I try to keep the substrate decently dry to avoid scale rot.
    He is extremely defensive. I've read in many places that BRBs grow out of their bitey phase, but it seems like he never did. I didn't even attempt handling until two weeks had passed, and mostly just to check over his body condition more thoroughly. Even just checking on him he'd strike at me through the tub and now his enclosure, has hissed quite a few times, and tagged my arm (pretty lightly, didn't latch on or anything). I do not handle daily, I've only handled him about six times in fact. I use a hook to stroke him before taking him out, turn his face away, touch and hold him from below, move slowly, pretty much everything that I've read and heard you should be doing when handling. The first few times were also choice based, he was up and about so I opened the door and laid my hand near it to see if he wanted to investigate, which he did for a while but still hissed at me once fully out. I do not put him back when he hisses or bluffs, since I don't want him learning defensive behavior=get put back, but I don't keep him out for long either. Any tips on getting him used to me? I have my suspicions he wasn't handled much at all where he came from.
    He also isn't very active. I'm used to snakes sleeping in the same spot for days-weeks at a time, but he barely moves. I've only caught him exploring a few times at night, but otherwise never even hear too much movement, no interest in climbing either. He loves burrowing instead of using his hides, no idea why but I've read that BRBs will burrow. He also spends days at a time in his water bowl. I got him one big enough to soak in, but how much time he spends in it seems excessive. No mites from what I can observe, everything in his enclosure was sterilized, sprayed down with mite spray weeks before he moved in, and I've seen nothing on his scales. He's definitely fine in there as he switches positions and usually rests with his head out of the water on the edge of the bowl, but he just does not come out. I'm worried he could get scale rot (is that possible from soaking or just very damp substrate?) or an RI. He's currently in shed, but he's been in the water days before he went into blue. I've boosted humidity to 90% for his shed as well, but still no desire from him to come out of the water. He also has yet to take more than one meal, but I'm not too concerned since adult boas have such a slow metabolism. Other than the one he has shown no interest in food or the smell when my BP is getting fed.

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    Re: Some BRB Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by carcrshbf View Post
    I recently got my second snake, a Brazilian Rainbow Boa, and as someone who's only owned Ball Pythons I'm unfamiliar on certain behaviors. I ordered an adult male (didn't think I would be ready for a nippy baby) and he came perfectly healthy.
    I appreciate the detailed description, but I have a couple questions that will help me advise you better. When did you get him? How old is he? Pics of his set up might help too. This thread will show you how to post them: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-Post-Pictures.
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    Also, is the snake WC or CB?

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    Re: Some BRB Questions

    Got him about a month ago. The breeder defiantly wasn't too descriptive, and he was just sold to me as an adult. If anything I'd estimate he's three or four? He is at average adult size and weight for a male, and his body condition is good, so not an overweight juvenile or anything. Despite asking I really was not informed much from the breeder besides what he ate and some basic information on the shipping process. I was told he was captive bred, the breeder also sells babies so I wouldn't assume they would be lying about that.

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    My adults have been very easy to handle so long as they're not stressed. When they're stressed (very rarely; I don't let things go that far), they'll give a warning strike.

    It could be that the one you have was moved out because it doesn't handle well; breeders selling adults have a handful of reasons to do so, but not all those reasons are ones that would make someone want to buy the animal. Especially if the snake is coming into his prime, as you think he is.

    It could be that the lack of movement and bad behavior is related. Perhaps the snake is uncomfortable because of the cage setup (or moisture levels, which the soaking and burrowing suggest), or because he has something internal that is bugging him.

    I'd definitely consider the enclosure setup, which we'd need photos to help troubleshoot. Could be related to the use of a UTH, especially in an enclosure that allows for climbing -- could be that he's too cold overall. UTHs are good for tubs, and for species that need a warm spot but are otherwise pretty adaptable to temps (which BRBs aren't so much), but otherwise are pretty limited in usefulness.

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    Agree with above post. He sounds very stressed from being in a new home- and often it's harder for an adult to settle in than a hatchling/neonate snake, because they were in their previous home a lot longer- change is difficult for most of us. He also sounds like he might be too cold if he's hugging the floor where the UTH is. Soaking- consider a stool check in the future. I'd also bet the breeder rarely handled him- so much for avoiding a nippy baby by getting a nippy adult with bigger teeth. Just figure he's a work in progress- be patient. And keep checking for mites.
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    Re: Some BRB Questions

    Stress


    I bought a placid, adult BRB years ago

    Got in home but it struck at the glass when I went close - for days !

    After a short settling in period she was back to being puppy tame


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