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    Admittedly a more nerdy thing than what most of this server is familiar with, but today the 4th installment of my favorite video game series (which Hocotate got his name from, as that is the name of a planet in it) was announced after a 10 year hiatus and I showed him the news.

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    I often wonder how people come up with their creative pet names (also forum names)-
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    More pics because why not.




    Never really paid attention to his belly scutes before, but the checkered patterns corns and other rat snakes have is underrated I have to say. His look like they went through a tectonic shift with how they're slightly misaligned.

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    I love their checkerboard "abs" too.
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    So, bad news... After lengthy discussion with someone knowledgeable about corn morphs, I found out Hoco is in fact just anery, no red factor/"coral" (which is apparently a catch all term that can mean several genes). The pinks would've been far more vibrant like this if he actually had the gene and the only reason he has pink at all is due to males being more vibrant and potentially having pinks even when anery.

    So not only did I not get the morph that I thought I was going to get, but I got grossly overcharged for a gene he doesn't even have. I don't want to just rehome him and try to get the "right one" since it's not his fault and I'd feel awful for getting rid of him for such a superficial reason and I'd feel crushed since I already rehomed a corn snake in the past and still deeply regret that choice to this day, but I'd be lying if I said I still wasn't incredibly disappointed and frustrated...
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    Re: Hocotate (Hoco) - Coral Anery Corn Snake Progression

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    So not only did I not get the morph that I thought I was going to get, but I got grossly overcharged for a gene he doesn't even have. I don't want to just rehome him and try to get the "right one" since it's not his fault and I'd feel awful for getting rid of him for such a superficial reason and I'd feel crushed since I already rehomed a corn snake in the past and still deeply regret that choice to this day, but I'd be lying if I said I still wasn't incredibly disappointed and frustrated...
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    So, after a lot of back and forth and debate, I believe he IS coral anery after all and is just a very weak expression of the red factor gene. Oh well.

    I also exercised my greatest feat of willpower in a very long time today. Was at the monthly local today and there was a vendor with a red factor hypo with much richer pinks and was either a European import or from a European bloodline (forget what the guy said exactly). It was also a female and only a month younger than my male so the opportunity was there if I ever wanted to try breeding.



    But ultimately, despite the temptation being incredibly strong, I didn't take her home. Been trying to pay off my car loan and finances are strained right now and I'm just not in a good position especially when I need to work towards enclosure upgrades for the snakes I already have so I needed to go with the wiser choice, as much as it hurt to leave her.

    As extra incentive to make that choice, I instead got more bamboo stalks for my VBB (she loves using them as "ground floor" hides) and a duplicate VE-200 thermostat. My BP is the last of my 3 snakes that's still on the cheap JumpStart type and I've been meaning to get him a more "professional" upgrade.



    If I go next month though, she happens to still be there and my situation has improved by then, she's mine.

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    Good job, putting the most important things first- but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that things improve & she's still waiting for you anyway. Always good to practice will-power, rather than impulse buys you're not quite ready for.
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    Re: Hocotate (Hoco) - Anery Corn Snake Progression

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    I also exercised my greatest feat of willpower in a very long time today. Was at the monthly local today and there was a vendor with a red factor hypo with much richer pinks and was either a European import or from a European bloodline (forget what the guy said exactly). It was also a female and only a month younger than my male so the opportunity was there if I ever wanted to try breeding.ood position especially when I need to work towards enclosure upgrades for the snakes I already have so I needed to go with the wiser choice, as much as it hurt to leave her.
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    If I go next month though, she happens to still be there and my situation has improved by then, she's mine.
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    Re: Hocotate (Hoco) - Anery Corn Snake Progression

    Quote Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    If impulse buying is unwise, impulse breeding is worse. Let your heart motivate you, but your head should guide you.
    Granted, what I meant was "I'd have two compatible snakes that would be capable of breeding if there was ever a point in time where I wanted and was capable of attempting it" and not "I wanted to get this with the explicit intention of breeding." But you are right either way.

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