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    Re: Low/Nil White Pied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snagrio View Post
    At least now there are cutting edge services where you can send in a BP's shed and they can analyze its heritage. Could be worth a shot for this mystery.
    I would offer to send the shed as a sample at this stage, but it's not advanced enough that it's worth doing much more yet. Give it some time though and they might be able to answer a lot of questions about what is going on with this animal. Doing a morph profile necessitates them having sequenced every gene that relates to any morph. When that service is first offered to the public, it will be very pricey because unlike sexing, they will have to examine a bunch of different genes, not just one chromosome.
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    Re: Low/Nil White Pied?

    Hey Nik, I think the university in Eastern Michigan is already doing that morph testing in ball pythons. OWAL had posted it in that thread. Unless I missed something in the readings. I know the original DNA sequence facility is only doing the sexing. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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    Re: Low/Nil White Pied?

    Used the search bar and the forum and can’t seem to pull up that thread. OWAL gave the link and the prompt led you to all the info about the Eastern Michigan study and information. I believe he also said he was preparing to send off several sheds soon.
    Last edited by Albert Clark; 03-07-2022 at 03:06 PM.
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    All the sheds I'm sending are donations so they can hopefully figure out some more morphs. I'll be seeing Hannah on Saturday, I'll ask her what they are able to do at their current stage.

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    Re: Low/Nil White Pied?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    All the sheds I'm sending are donations so they can hopefully figure out some more morphs. I'll be seeing Hannah on Saturday, I'll ask her what they are able to do at their current stage.
    Alright, that sounds like a plan. I was not sure if the description of their advances were already in place and being carried out. Or to what extent. Please keep us posted when you can. The language in the article accessed through the link led me to believe all systems were a go.
    Last edited by Albert Clark; 03-07-2022 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Add wording.
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    Re: Low/Nil White Pied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Hey Nik, I think the university in Eastern Michigan is already doing that morph testing in ball pythons. OWAL had posted it in that thread. Unless I missed something in the readings. I know the original DNA sequence facility is only doing the sexing. Correct me if I’m wrong.
    This is from their website:

    "We have created genetic tests for Albino/Toffee/Candy, Lavender Albino, Ultramel, and soon Piebald. Genetic tests will be offered for FREE in Fall 2021.

    To have your animal tested, please send us a shed from your animal.


    Genetic testing can tell you:


    Whether your animal is heterozygous


    Which alleles your animal carries (e.g. Albino versus Toffee versus Candy)"

    I imagine they had a period they were doing them for free to get some more samples in. Not sure if that has expired since it's no longer fall 2021, or what progress they have made since this was posted. For the testing when publicly available for a fee, they will likely have a cost per morph to test or a larger group of tests to test them all. I also imagine they chose to start with the morphs they did because recessive morphs being tested for hets should be the bulk of demand.

    I'm very excited to see how the project grows, and I'm glad more than one place is working on it. Ever since Brian mentioned it on youtube that he wanted to possibly start working on it, I've been really excited and even entertained the idea of doing it myself but it would be such a huge scope that I just don't have the resources I would need. Here is the original thread https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...om-Snake-Sheds!
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    Re: Low/Nil White Pied?

    And the original genetic sequencing facility is only doing venomous and colubrid testing for sex determination. Not ball pythons yet.
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    So in addition to what they say above she said they can also do they yellowbelly complex. She believes they are close to pied and hypo also. I asked about clown and she said it's a big request. Being able to tell hypo clown and pied would be huge for me.

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