Fire gene in an albino?

[PythonChris88]

I'm wondering if there are any indicators that can help determine whether an albino has fire in it. I purchased an albino pied and learned that the pairing was albino pied fire x albino het pied. I'd like to know if she also has fire in her. Any way to tell besides through breeding?

[Armiyana]

The problem with identifying it is the fire really brightens up the overall colors, not just the golds. When you take away the black background you loose a lot of the way to identify the gene.
You might be able to take a good guess if the yellows on your snake are staying brighter than a typical albino, but it's pretty difficult to spot on bright white and yellow babies.
It's also not something to easily photograph, but maybe someone with a good eye and familiarity with the gene can help you out...but if she's a low expression fire the only way to be sure if breeding her out.

[PythonChris88]

The problem with identifying it is the fire really brightens up the overall colors, not just the golds. When you take away the black background you loose a lot of the way to identify the gene.
You might be able to take a good guess if the yellows on your snake are staying brighter than a typical albino, but it's pretty difficult to spot on bright white and yellow babies.
It's also not something to easily photograph, but maybe someone with a good eye and familiarity with the gene can help you out...but if she's a low expression fire the only way to be sure if breeding her out.

Thank you! Yeah, that is pretty much what I figured but I'm hoping someone with more familiarity knows of some subtle indicators that can help identify its presence. She has a lot of orange, almost reddish coloration that doesn't show well in photos, mostly near the borders with white. Here is the ad from the breeder with some photos: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/725580.

[plateOfFlan]

Aw, I'm glad you got this girl, I was just admiring her ad awhile back, she's incredibly cute!

eta: could you ask the breeder for pics of the parents to compare? It seems like if they had a fire albino pied on hand to compare they would have been able to spot it if it was present.

[PythonChris88]

Aw, I'm glad you got this girl, I was just admiring her ad awhile back, she's incredibly cute!

eta: could you ask the breeder for pics of the parents to compare? It seems like if they had a fire albino pied on hand to compare they would have been able to spot it if it was present.

Thank you! She is really sweet, couldn't pass her up. Took a meal right after coming home with me too

I asked him if he thought she had fire and he wasn't sure either. I assume the parent was sold to him as fire albino pied, but maybe he wasn't familiar enough either to tell how/if the fire contributes anything.

I have a male pied het albino that I'll pair with her in a few years. I think the pied het albinos I get should tell me if there is fire in there. If she does have it, half of those should be visually brighter.

[nikkubus]

Fire would be really tough to ID in Albino, but when she gets older, I think it will get slightly easier. Where Albinos tend to pale out a bit, she would probably lose some oranges but still stay pretty bright yellow with Fire.