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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

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    Good Info, Thank You, I have allot to learn, and i already know life is 20 to 30 plus years... I am ok with that long life.....
    If you have any other info to share, let me know, I'll listen, She cost me allot, But she can not ship yet, to HOT
    You're welcome but I'll wait for specific questions- meanwhile, keep reading & learning, it will help you to have more background knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    You're welcome but I'll wait for specific questions- meanwhile, keep reading & learning, it will help you to have more background knowledge.
    OK last 2 days i been getting a lil frustrated, I search but i can not find out what's the difference in the
    VE-100 & VE-200
    All i see in a difference is the VE200 has this Pulse Proportional OR On/Off capable....

    I do not know what this means....
    Can you please explain the difference in these 2?

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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

    Quote Originally Posted by dee151 View Post
    OK last 2 days i been getting a lil frustrated, I search but i can not find out what's the difference in the
    VE-100 & VE-200
    All i see in a difference is the VE200 has this Pulse Proportional OR On/Off capable....

    I do not know what this means....
    Can you please explain the difference in these 2?
    That's seems to be the difference, the 100 is on/off only

    On/off is just like it sounds the thermostat is either off or on depending on needs, heat pad is either off or 100%

    Proportional thermostat will wary the voltage and heat of the heat pad or RHP so it can run from 0% to 100% depending on needs

    Here is lots of info

    https://www.reptilebasics.com/thermostat_faq

    Features chart of the thermostats

    https://www.reptilebasics.com/thermostats
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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gocntry View Post
    That's seems to be the difference, the 100 is on/off only

    On/off is just like it sounds the thermostat is either off or on depending on needs, heat pad is either off or 100%

    Proportional thermostat will wary the voltage and heat of the heat pad or RHP so it can run from 0% to 100% depending on needs

    Here is lots of info

    https://www.reptilebasics.com/thermostat_faq

    Features chart of the thermostats

    https://www.reptilebasics.com/thermostats
    Yes i saw this chart, But i still DO NOT NO what does it mean by
    VE-200 Yes Yes-Pulse/Dimming
    Last edited by dee151; 07-03-2021 at 11:10 AM.

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    i'll try to figure this out, it just sound very confusing, to me, i have no clue what any of this means..
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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

    Quote Originally Posted by dee151 View Post
    Yes i saw this chart, But i still DO NOT NO what does it mean by
    VE-200 Yes Yes-Pulse/Dimming
    The VE-200 is YES for "on/off" and YES for "Pulse/dimming" Control, Pulse/Dimming is Better than On/Off

    The Ve-100 Is YES for On/Off Only. No Pulse/Dimming This is cheaper but not as good.

    Herpstat from Spyder Robotics are good thermostats too, I have several of these they are Proportional as well

    https://spyderrobotics.com/

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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

    Quote Originally Posted by dee151 View Post
    i'll try to figure this out, it just sound very confusing, to me, i have no clue what any of this means..
    Here's the important part.....

    non proportional thermostats use an "on/off" approach and usually have a 1 or 2 degree (or more in cheaper ones) "slop". They turn on 100% when the temperature falls a degree or two below the set point and they stay on until the temperature gets to the set point, and often have momentum and go 1 or more degrees beyond the set point. This means that if you set your thermostat at 80 degrees your actual temps can vary between as low as 76-78 degrees and as high as 82-84 degrees. A roller coaster ride for your animals


    proportional thermostat more like a light dimmer with a brain constantly adjusting itself to maintain a much more precise temperature. The "slop" in proportional thermostats is usually measured in 1/10 degrees
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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

    Quote Originally Posted by dee151 View Post
    i'll try to figure this out, it just sound very confusing, to me, i have no clue what any of this means..
    Did you read those links to Reptile Basics? They explain it very well. The model numbers just indicate which product (t-stat) you're buying (look at the chart in 2nd link). FYI, some kinds of heat sources work best with a particular kind of t-stat. Example: if you use UTH, some brands far more than others will just go OFF if you try to use a proportional t-stat, where the power is on but turned down as needed (or dimmed, as when using a "rheostat")- whereas others will still work okay.

    An "on-off" t-stat means just that, the power is either full ON or completely off, for those heat sources that respond best this way. To maintain a certain temperature, the less-complex "on-off" kind of t-stat may be frequently going on & off, which may wear out some kinds of heat sources*, so what you need depends on what you're using.

    LONG before you get a pet, you need to hook up & test your equipment anyway, so you have time to exchange things that don't work as expected, when you test the temperatures achieved in your set-up -it can take a few days for heat to build up when using UTH, for example- it's low-wattage & efficient, but not "fast". If your room/home is on the cold side, you may either need more than one kind of heat source (ex. UTH plus something overhead- such as a CHE), or another type may be better suited (many prefer an RHP).

    I agree this sounds confusing at first, but it's essential that you understand this stuff so you don't harm (over-heat or under-heat) the animals you're trying to maintain. Once you get your enclosure set up properly though, it should not need much tweaking, but do also consider seasonal room or home temperatures- if you use very little A/C & let your place get rather warm in the summer, it might not prepare you for how much heat you need to supply in the winter, if your room or home gets cold where the snake enclosure is.
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    Re: Healthy Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer

    Yes I read them...
    And look at the herpstats one to...
    With herpstats, it can be hook up to Any RHP or Heat Mat?


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