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    What frozen mice breeder to go with? And possibly help with sizing.

    Buying rodents from petsmart/petco gets expensive. Im wondering if anyone is from the Montana area, and knows of some good breeders. Was looking at rodent pro, but heard some mixed reviews. Could also use some help determining what size to feed him? He's very underweight, thats just how i got him, and previous owner said he was on fuzzies. Im feeding him that now but they leave no lump so i think he would go a lot larger. I dont know his actual age, but hes 22 inches from head to tail maybe give some since he was trying to run away.

    id post a pic but I'm not sure how, new to forums in general. I have a post on Instagram Kazarous, the only one there if that would work.

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    As far as posting pics here, many use Tapatalk, & this thread may help:
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    Re: What frozen mice breeder to go with? And possibly help with sizing.

    I used to use Rodent Pro but then started getting really smelly mice that my corn snakes didn't like. The rats seemed okay but when I switched to Cold Blooded Cafe I have really noticed a difference in how well all my snakes are eating and looking. The quality is very good and all my snakes are eating more consistently.
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    Re: What frozen mice breeder to go with? And possibly help with sizing.

    Big Cheese, Cold Blooded Cafe, and Perfect Prey are all really good suppliers. We’d have to see the snake or know it’s age & weight to recommend the appropriate prey size. A general rule of thumb is to feed a prey item no bigger than 1.5x the widest part of the snake’s body.
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    I've used Rodent Pro for a long time and have not had any issues. I've placed three orders in the past few months and all were good. One they did forget one item but got it out asap without any fuss. That's been a mix of mice and rats. I like that they can use a unlabeled box to ship to you. When I lived in an apartment that was nice. What's in the box? Frozen meat. End of questions.
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    I raise my own rodents, but if I needed to buy them, I've heard great reviews & would buy from Perfect Prey (in FL), or Layne Labs (in CA) & Big Cheese (in TX, I think?). Unfortunately, none of them are close to you.
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    Re: What frozen mice breeder to go with? And possibly help with sizing.

    I got some pics uploaded in the replies. Hope that works. I don't know how the rile of thumb goes for underweight snakes, and I don't have a scale on hand right now to weight him

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    Without having a weight, he looks like rat pups would be the appropriate size, maybe weaned rats, but I wouldn't jump straight from fuzzy to weaned anyway.

    I've been using rodentpro for a very long time and never had problems but I have been seeing a lot of other people say they have recently.

    The only other company I've used for shipping bulk is reptilinks but they do not currently sell rodents and I'm not sure when they will. They have been saying "coming soon" for a couple years now lol. As much as I love links, I absolutely would not recommend trying it as a novice BP keeper because of how difficult they are to get to eat new things.
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    Re: What frozen mice breeder to go with? And possibly help with sizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkubus View Post
    Without having a weight, he looks like rat pups would be the appropriate size, maybe weaned rats, but I wouldn't jump straight from fuzzy to weaned anyway.

    I've been using rodentpro for a very long time and never had problems but I have been seeing a lot of other people say they have recently.

    The only other company I've used for shipping bulk is reptilinks but they do not currently sell rodents and I'm not sure when they will. They have been saying "coming soon" for a couple years now lol. As much as I love links, I absolutely would not recommend trying it as a novice BP keeper because of how difficult they are to get to eat new things.
    Oh interesting. I was told by previous owner they were feeding a fuzzy mouse once a week (but he didnt take from them for 2+ weeks before getting into my hands), but after feeding him one I noticed that it hardly made a bulge in his already skinny form so I started to question true sizing. He was super thin when I first got him so that may have caused confusion as well, but I was afraid of hopper mice being too large for him to handle. I guess they can take larger pray than I expected. I know about the 1.25/1.5x rule, but since he was bare bones and ribs when I got him I was a bit hesitant. I've been feeding him my remaining fuzzy mice about once every 4 days when he starts to prowl. I didn't wanna try feeding too large to prevent him from regurgitating at such a questionable state.

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