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    Question New babies, can you help me to identify, please?

    Hi guys, can you help me to identify my new babies? They are after first shed. Belly are clear, eyes are dark blue, 4 babies from 6 babies looks same. There are pictures.

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    Knowing what the parents are would help worlds. Going from absolutely zero info, they look like super pastel GHI with something else helping dorsal striping and color. Knowing the parents can help a much more accurate decision, as there are hundreds of morphs out there.
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    Re: New babies, can you help me to identify, please?

    Thank you, mother of these babies is more than 10 years old. Here she is https://ibb.co/KrzrC1T . Father is GHI Spider Pastel. Can you help me? I used https://www.worldofballpythons.com/ and the result is confusing for me.

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    Pic of dad? What was mom sold as? She looks maybe YB + a brightening morph of some kind. Did you breed dad? Any chance he is mom's offspring? Either of them acquired from NERD? I've got a few theories but nothing that could easily explain what's going on. It's a very puzzling situation, especially given that 4/6 turned out that way and not just one. Crazy odds do happen, but what are the chances that dad has an extra morph past what you listed, mom has a couple, and 4/6 babies inherited ALL of the possible morphs except spider? What are the odds both mom and dad have a recessive and 4/6 babies got two copies to show visuals? Both scenarios are extremely unlikely.

    The reason I ask about NERD is that Kevin has something floating around in his lucifer lines that has a very similar look of dorsal stripe, and lucifers can get blue eyes in some combos that otherwise wouldn't have that. Lucifer + pastel + YB might explain how strong the head blushing is since I highly doubt mom is pastel based on her pic, so they can't be super pastel after all.

    Here is a pic of what I am talking about with the dorsal in NERD lines:


    So far all I'm certain of is those hatchlings have GHI and a single copy of pastel. The rest is just guessing, but probably YB, not spider, and something(s) else. If it were me, I would certainly be keeping a few of them, if not all of them, and doing some test breeding to figure out what the heck is going on, or at the very least, partner up with an experienced breeder who could help you do that.
    7.22 BP 1.4 corn 1.1 SD retic 0.1 hognose

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    Re: New babies, can you help me to identify, please?

    Thank you, mother is F2 Wild origin in Ghana (her grandma was taken from wild more than 30 years ago) Dad is "rescued" I am third owner and the mutation was just told me and his origin is in Nederland I donīt know any conection to NERD. There are his photos:
    https://ibb.co/jzG6VsR
    https://ibb.co/DLFpb6x
    https://ibb.co/5G971rk
    https://ibb.co/pnKG2tf
    There are photos of the second type of babies (2/6) it may help you to help me.
    https://ibb.co/1LXbksM
    https://ibb.co/6g9Q67b
    https://ibb.co/GvcDn4z
    https://ibb.co/WzKTn5J

    Thank you very much.

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    There is no way you are going to get to the bottom of it without some test breeding but dad looks like he has something different going on than just GHI pastel spider. He may not even be pastel, but a similar morph that causes slightly less head blushing, as his head stamp doesn't quite match pastel. GHI should suppress the white coming up the sides in spider, but his is just as strong as a spider without GHI, so maybe whatever it is suppresses GHI to an extent. Those other two are pretty wild looking too with so little black left.
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    Re: New babies, can you help me to identify, please?

    Thank you very much. And my last question, or just my thought. Whatīs next ? I am not a breeder, I am just hobby herpetologist - I own only the parents pair. I donīt want to make some breeding project - also I donīt have space for it. I just wanted to try have babies. What should I do ? I donīt know any big breeder in my country. I am from the Czech repubilc.
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    If you don't have the space to take it further, I would sell them with as much documentation as possible and as "GHI dinker". Show the picture of mom and dad along with the babies when you sell them. Someone will want to pick the project up as it's quite stunning.
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    Smile Re: New babies, can you help me to identify, please?

    Thank you very much for all your advices.

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