30 gallon enosure

[Matty88]

Hi everyone,

Question concerning UTH and Ceramic Heat Bulb.

My terra is 36x12.5x15.5 inches

Should I have my heat mat (on thermostat) on one side and my Ceramic Heat Bulb(on dimmer)in the other or both in same side or something completely different. (I have a bunch of thermometers with probes as well that will be going in the tank obviously lol).

Thanks in advance

[Bogertophis]

Hard to answer this without knowing the ambient temperatures in your home or room where the enclosure will be: For the most part, you want a warm side & a cool (unheated) side so a snake can choose the temperature they need. The exception would be something like a BP needing a fairly warm temperature range (78-80* cool side & 88-90* max warm side) IF by not heating one side, it will be too cold for the occupant (like if you keep the A/C to the extent that it ends up being 72* or something), then & only then you'd need some minimal heat source to keep the "cool side" at the proper range for your snake.

Otherwise, normally, the heat goes on one end, a second source if needed might be more to the middle, leaving an unheated part (about a third of the floor) for safety & needed thermoregulation for the snake- they need to be able to choose the right temperatures as needed. Make sense? So place the heat sources where they will get you the temps your snake needs- and fully test them for at least a few days before the snake moves in- you might need to move them around again.

[Matty88]

It is for a Butter Fire OD Ball Python.

Ambient temp in the room is between 69F and 72.5F

[Matty88]

Hard to answer this without knowing the ambient temperatures in your home or room where the enclosure will be: For the most part, you want a warm side & a cool (unheated) side so a snake can choose the temperature they need. The exception would be something like a BP needing a fairly warm temperature range (78-80* cool side & 88-90* max warm side) IF by not heating one side, it will be too cold for the occupant (like if you keep the A/C to the extent that it ends up being 72* or something), then & only then you'd need some minimal heat source to keep the "cool side" at the proper range for your snake.

Otherwise, normally, the heat goes on one end, a second source if needed might be more to the middle, leaving an unheated part (about a third of the floor) for safety & needed thermoregulation for the snake- they need to be able to choose the right temperatures as needed. Make sense? So place the heat sources where they will get you the temps your snake needs- and fully test them for at least a few days before the snake moves in- you might need to move them around again.

It is for a Butter Fire OD Ball Python.

Ambient temp in the room is between 69F and 72.5F

[Bogertophis]

So then obviously you're going to need some heat on both ends of this enclosure. No heat added at one end would be too chilly for a BP. Trial & error as to placement, try it & test it for a few days until you get it where it needs to be. (UTH heat tends to build up- you may not see the ultimate temperatures as quickly as would be convenient.)

[Matty88]

I live in Montreal Canada so we also have very cold winters lol

ok perfect thank you for the info.

[Bogertophis]

It is for a Butter Fire OD Ball Python.

Ambient temp in the room is between 69F and 72.5F

If it was for something like a corn snake, you'd only need some heat at one end, or maybe just in one corner, because they're comfortable at 70-72* ambient in their enclosure for the most part. But BPs need more warmth...

[Matty88]

For sure I've done a lot of research just also a lot of mixed info out there....so here's what I was thinking of doing.

Heat pad on cold side to heat substrate to 80F (it will be in a thermostat)

And then

Ceramic Heat Bulb for hot side to get the ambient air up to 88-90F (either on dimmer or pulse proportion thermostat)

Any takes on this?

[Bogertophis]

For sure I've done a lot of research just also a lot of mixed info out there....so here's what I was thinking of doing.

Heat pad on cold side to heat substrate to 80F (it will be in a thermostat)

And then

Ceramic Heat Bulb for hot side to get the ambient air up to 88-90F (either on dimmer or pulse proportion thermostat)

Any takes on this?

I agree about the "cold side" but remember that heat rises, so using a heat bulb on the warm side might not be enough to adequately warm the floor (insulating the enclosure could help though). Also, BPs need about 55% humidity (more in shed) so keep in mind that heat bulbs tend to remove a lot of the humidity, according to those using them.

[Matty88]

I agree about the "cold side" but remember that heat rises, so using a heat bulb on the warm side might not be enough to adequately warm the floor (insulating the enclosure could help though). Also, BPs need about 55% humidity (more in shed) so keep in mind that heat bulbs tend to remove a lot of the humidity, according to those using them.

Ok good Info.....so what would you suggest for the hot side? A second heat pad and no ceramic heat lamp?