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    Re: BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

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    Thank you both. Both BP1 and BP2 are curious individuals. They roam around 7pm to 10pm. BP2 explores every nook and cranny and usually chills on top of a half-log resin hide. She never hides there, too exposed. I put the halg-log in anyway for climbing purposes. I also put XL plastic hides that are too big for them, so that they can climb on those too. The hides that they actually use as hides right now are medium rectangular black plastic hides.
    They sound like they're in good hands with you.
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    Re: BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAGpenguin View Post
    Thank you both. Both BP1 and BP2 are curious individuals. They roam around 7pm to 10pm. BP2 explores every nook and cranny and usually chills on top of a half-log resin hide. She never hides there, too exposed. I put the halg-log in anyway for climbing purposes. I also put XL plastic hides that are too big for them, so that they can climb on those too. The hides that they actually use as hides right now are medium rectangular black plastic hides.
    That's good, I agree with slowly reduced feeds. If you switch to asf it takes two weeks of digestion and poops are smaller.

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    Honestly, both of them look overweight to me, the 2nd is just a lot more overweight. I would slow down the feeding a bit and switch to mice that are freshly weaned. Soft furs are more ideal in a perfect world but they can be a lot more expensive or extremely hard to find, and I wouldn't swap to them unless you know for sure you can have a steady supply with how hard BPs are to switch foods sometimes.
    7.22 BP 1.4 corn 1.1 SD retic 0.1 hognose

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    A relieving update: current weight under my care is 320 grams, real age 7 months

    So, the guy I bought BP2 (pastel mojave GHI) from...I found him shady some time ago. He spams the internet with pics of his friends' BPs and then sells them at inflated prices, if someone buys from him, he would buy from one of his friends and then sell it to you. Basically just a shady middleman, and his friends do not know that he is doing this. I have seen his personal BPs in person, did not have anything special. When he sold the Pastel Mojave GHI to me, the DOB was wrong.

    Here is what I did. I figured the number and shape of the stripes of this morph is like a fingerprint and no 2 Pastave GHIs would have the same stripes. Then I went to all online shops that sell snakes in my country and compare the stripes of all female Pastave GHis with the stripes of my own BP2. The OCD detective work paid off because I found one with identical stripes. I tracked down the original breeder and he said he was surprised that I have it but confirmed that BP2 was his, He said the really loved her and took care of her personally since hatched and expected me to do the same, and I was like,"Sure thing bro".

    So the real numbers for BP2 are these: Female Pastave GHI, 320 grams now, 7 months old. I am going to follow Bogertophis' and Nikkubus' advice by reducing the feeding frequency because I am afraid if I switch to another rodent, switching back to rats will be difficult in the future, and I cant find ASF rats anyway. But the situation needs to be reassessed as well given the real numbers mentioned above.

    @nikkubus I swear BP1 isnt overweight, I took the pics on feeding day, that is a whole rat in her facing the camera. She is much skinnier than that really.
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    Ah, that makes sense then. I'd still be a bit careful though because there are areas away from the stomach portion that scales are starting to spread which is one thing I really watch for to determine overfeeding. You want them to have a nice overlap.

    Flipping is not uncommon around here, and you have to be very careful with quarantine when dealing with people like that. Claiming you bred something that you bought is pretty unethical and I don't blame you for losing trust in that guy. I bet the actual breeder is glad she landed a home with someone who cares about her health
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    Good "detective work"!
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