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    BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

    So, I bought a female BP pastave GHI and when she arrived she was HUGE, 350 grams at 3 months old. Can this be normal?
    and if hypothetically she had been POWERFED by the breeder for a couple of months, has the damage been done? Will she live a short life?

    Note: I asked the breeder and they said she was fed once a week, but please humor me and give your thoughts about the hypothetical situation stated above.
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    It's pretty big for 3 mos, but not unheard of. My experience is that feeding heavy the first 6 months will not cause long term problems. What exactly powerfeeding is can be debated. I wouldn't worry too much about her weight, and instead worry about her shape, and correct it SLOWLY if need be. Sometimes hatchlings are born much larger than average. Sometimes hatchlings have an insane metabolism and growth compared to the average. You have to take your individual snake into account.

    If you were to take a cross section of your snake, it should be pretty close to an equilateral triangle with somewhat curved sides. If it's more like the letter D on its side, or worse, an O, there is way too much fat reserves. Stick with weekly feeding, but I would feed something smaller than what you would normally feed one that size until she is the correct shape. It could take a long time.
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    Re: BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

    I love this chart for a visual.

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    Re: BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

    The chart above should tell you if its been power fed.
    However, if its not overweight, the age you were told it was may be wrong. Its possible. Mistakes happen.

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    Based on the chart, she is still triangular like row 2, but her tail does have a very slight sudden taper like row 3. I am leaning towards somewhere between row 2 "good" and row 3 "overweight". But it is closer to row 2. Either she really is a grower or maybe DOB was wrong. Thanks for the help guys. I know for sure that she is nowhere near obese or power fed.

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    Re: BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

    How old do you think she is again? What is she eating lol.

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    Her tail may be that way because she has to poop. See if it changes after she goes. If not, I'd definitely stick with pups a bit longer rather than moving her up to weaned, she is right on the cusp of the two sizes.
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    I might still need help with this issue. After a couple more feedings and further observation, i have noticed something odd with this BP that might be overweight.
    So here are the details. She is about 320 grams now and i feed her rats 10% of her weight to get her skinnier.

    1.My normal healthy BP (BP1) is 266 grams and about the same length as the BP I suspect to be overweight at 320grams (BP2), but BP2 is way thicker and has more girth.
    2.BP1 strikes her prey and then coils it with her whole body. the BP that I suspect to be overweight (BP2) strikes the prey and then only coils the prey wth her upper body like it can not bend or curve her midsection.
    3.If i take my rectangular plastic hide off of BP 1, I would find her coiled in a circular manner, whereas BP2 would coil in a rectangular manner following the shape of rectangular the plastic hide, again as if she cant bend her girthy midsection
    4. The slight sudden taper at the tail of BP2 remains (see above posts), it was not her about to poop

    These are the details I have observed after the initial thread post. Let me know your thoughts. If we go by the chart at post number 3 above. I would say the snake fits the description of "overweight" (row 3 out of 6). But her midsection is pretty round and I can not see the spine pointing upwards, not to the point where i can see cleavage tho like in rows 4 to 6. I need your thoughts on this guys. Thanks

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    https://ibb.co/qL6hkJN
    https://ibb.co/WgT34BP

    BP1 healthy is the pastel yb
    BP2 suspected overweight is pastave GHI
    Note: today is feeding day, both BPs in the pics have a whole rat in them right now still.
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    Re: BP 350 grams at 3 months. normal or not?

    Slight tangent but this Royal is 350 grams ...

    Tyson Fury the 6’9” world champion boxer was only 460g at birth !!

    He was a couple of months premature and not expected to survive !!


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