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    !boa bonanza!

    Well, we’ve got the Morelia Madness thread for all things Morelia... figured we needed an outlet for all things Boa as well. Pictures, discussion on husbandry, natural history, etc.

    I’ll kick things off with the two representatives of the Genus in my snake room. Boa constrictor (Pokigron Suriname True Red-Tail) and Boa constrictor occidentalis (Argentine Boa).

    Post ‘em if ya got ‘em!







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    Great idea! They sure love those "sky-hides" don't they?
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    !boa bonanza!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Great idea! They sure love those "sky-hides" don't they?
    More so than I even expected. I guided both of them into their highest ones to be sure they found them (also have them mounted under the shelves) and they’re both using them almost daily. Neither have found or used the under-shelf sky hides though. I’ll move those to upcoming Morelia enclosures if they continue going unused.

    The Argentine has been spending all daylight hours in hers and the suri tends to spend daylight hours on the floor buried in his bedding, but has been out exploring the canopy offerings at night more than he had in the previous enclosure. Probably partially attributable to new scents and enrichment options, but I’ll have to closely observe and see if I can detect any new behavioral patterns that correspond with changes in his environment.


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    I'll contribute.

    Sniper: Barranquilla, Colombian locale. Produced by Gus Rentfro (Rio Bravo Reptiles)

    This photo is courtesy of Legacy Reptiles and was the first picture I ever saw of him.



    A few years back on the deck rail. Summer rain.


    Another older photo, a rare grass shot.


    More recent and much longer.



    I only have 1 so that's all you get LOL!


    I'll get the summer pictures out soon.

    The house and deck are up for painting this spring so things should look a bit more crisp after that.

    Great post JM and beautiful boas!
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    Re: !boa bonanza!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    I'll contribute.

    Sniper: Barranquilla, Colombian locale. Produced by Gus Rentfro (Rio Bravo Reptiles)

    This photo is courtesy of Legacy Reptiles and was the first picture I ever saw of him.



    A few years back on the deck rail. Summer rain.


    Another older photo, a rare grass shot.


    More recent and much longer.



    I only have 1 so that's all you get LOL!


    I'll get the summer pictures out soon.

    The house and deck are up for painting this spring so things should look a bit more crisp after that.

    Great post JM and beautiful boas!
    Sniper is looking fantastic gio

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    I really love snipers colour and marking Gio
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    Re: !boa bonanza!

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Well, we’ve got the Morelia Madness thread for all things Morelia... figured we needed an outlet for all things Boa as well. Pictures, discussion on husbandry, natural history, etc.

    I’ll kick things off with the two representatives of the Genus in my snake room. Boa constrictor (Pokigron Suriname True Red-Tail) and Boa constrictor occidentalis (Argentine Boa).

    Post ‘em if ya got ‘em!







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    Both boas Looking awsome jmcrook,
    My gomez love his high shelf too

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    Re: !boa bonanza!

    For some reason I can't upload pics at the moment

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    If you are into boas, one thing to pick up on is the differences in head and body shape. Sniper has a head in between a Colombian BCI (BI) and a BCC (BC) with a taller loaf body than the typical Colombian so he's a little of each which is what the locale is said to be. "A natural cross", according to Russo's book.

    However I see a lot of differences between JM's two boas here. Both head and body shapes are distinct and will become more-so with age.

    Richard,

    When you can post, you'll have a lot to add. You seem to have a sizable and diverse collection.
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    Re: !boa bonanza!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    If you are into boas, one thing to pick up on is the differences in head and body shape. Sniper has a head in between a Colombian BCI (BI) and a BCC (BC) with a taller loaf body than the typical Colombian so he's a little of each which is what the locale is said to be. "A natural cross", according to Russo's book.

    However I see a lot of differences between JM's two boas here. Both head and body shapes are distinct and will become more-so with age.

    Richard,

    When you can post, you'll have a lot to add. You seem to have a sizable and diverse collection.

    Russo's book is a great read for anyone interested in learning more about boas. jmcrook recommended it to me awhile back when we were discussing keeping boas vs Morelia. I'm excited this thread got started, and looking forward to seeing everyone's collections in one place.

    Forgive what may be a silly question, but along with the body and head shape, have you all noticed any behavioral differences between the different localities that you keep?

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    !boa bonanza!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugsplox View Post
    Russo's book is a great read for anyone interested in learning more about boas. jmcrook recommended it to me awhile back when we were discussing keeping boas vs Morelia. I'm excited this thread got started, and looking forward to seeing everyone's collections in one place.

    Forgive what may be a silly question, but along with the body and head shape, have you all noticed any behavioral differences between the different localities that you keep?
    Not a silly question at all! Most noticeable behavioral difference to me (and most annoying to me...) is that my Suriname insists on completely and totally burying his every bowel movement 100% below the substrate. Like digs his tail down into the mulch and then let’s it rip directly on the floor of the enclosure. The Argentine just goes directly on top for the most part.

    My theory is that it’s a survival mechanism so that potential predators are less likely to pick up on a scent trail. Strange that the Argentine doesn’t do that though as they’re both about the same age and size.

    The Suriname is a bit more sedentary in the enclosure but squirrellier when outside and vice versa with the Argentine. Suri also is quite grippy and grabs very tightly when being handed and the Argentine not nearly as much.


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