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    What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    I'm thinking of getting into breeding ball pythons but only have a male Enchi at the moment. I was wondering what Enchi morphs you all think would be interesting to play with right away. The only caveat is I personally don't want to work with anything with known genetic issues like Ghost, Spider, Cinnamon. I'm not saying you shouldn't or that they are wrong to work with. I just don't think I have the skill to care for them properly at the moment as I'm just getting into breeding.

    Ultimately my goal is to breed my own lesser Mojave BEL and / or a panda pied but those are future me projects if I decide to stick with it.

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    Here is a good place to start I have a video(made it last month) of all the best Enchi combos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8bJzlmWmf4
    Checkout my YouTube channel! I post Ball Python Morph Combo videos daily: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXr...7cOR5pcCONzvtA

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    Re: What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by zanic07 View Post
    The only caveat is I personally don't want to work with anything with known genetic issues like Ghost, .......

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    Zanic,
    What issues have you heard with Ghost? I agree with you about Spider, and I know Super Cinnamons can have issues, but I haven't really heard any issues with Ghost other than a couple of versions being incompatible. And by incompatible I mean they wont produce the Ghost/Hypomelanistic result but it does not effect the overall health of the snake.

    The reason I am bringing this up is, I think that Enchi Lesser Ghost is one of the prettiest Enchi combos that can be produced. Here is a picture as an example. From Bottom Left going clockwise is, an Enchi het Ghost, an Enchi Lesser Ghost, an Enchi Lesser het Ghost, and a Lesser Ghost. Good luck what ever you decide.

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    Re: What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
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    The reason I am bringing this up is, I think that Enchi Lesser Ghost is one of the prettiest Enchi combos that can be produced. Here is a picture as an example. From Bottom Left going clockwise is, an Enchi het Ghost, an Enchi Lesser Ghost, an Enchi Lesser het Ghost, and a Lesser Ghost. Good luck what ever you decide.

    You might be right [about their appeal]...how could you pick just ONE of those?
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    Re: What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    Zanic,
    What issues have you heard with Ghost? I agree with you about Spider, and I know Super Cinnamons can have issues, but I haven't really heard any issues with Ghost other than a couple of versions being incompatible.
    Just that the females are infertile. I don't know if mixing ghost with something else fixes that problem or not and since I'm new I'm on the fence about them. I do have to say yours are gorgeous though.

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    Re: What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by zanic07 View Post
    Just that the females are infertile. I don't know if mixing ghost with something else fixes that problem or not and since I'm new I'm on the fence about them. I do have to say yours are gorgeous though.
    I mean no disrespect, but either you misunderstood or you have been misinformed. There is no issue with the Ghost gene causing female infertility. The four in the picture were 4 out of 8 in a clutch from an Enchi Ghost female paired with a Lesser het Ghost male. I have been working with the Ghost or Hypo gene for years and have produced quite a few clutches with Ghost/Hypo results, all without issue. I have produced Fire Ghosts, Pied Ghosts, and am waiting right now for a clutch of potential Enchi Clown Ghosts to drop. The only genes I had heard about with female infertility issues was the Caramel gene and the gene they called Desert. That is not to be confused with Desert Ghost, nor is Desert Ghost the same thing as Ghost. Anyways, don't just take my word for it. Do some more research because I believe Ghost is really a great enhancing gene to work with.
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    Re: What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    The only genes I had heard about with female infertility issues was the Caramel gene and the gene they called Desert. That is not to be confused with Desert Ghost, nor is Desert Ghost the same thing as Ghost. Anyways, don't just take my word for it. Do some more research because I believe Ghost is really a great enhancing gene to work with.
    None taken. This confusion is entirely on me. I have heard a lot about about desert ghost as a gene and assumed ghost and desert were just abbreviations of desert ghost. I did not realize Desert, Ghost, and Desert Ghost were 3 separate genes. I'm glad I asked the question and you corrected my mistake otherwise I would be missing out on some pretty amazing combos.

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    Re: What's an interesting Enchi morph for a new breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by zanic07 View Post
    None taken. This confusion is entirely on me. I have heard a lot about about desert ghost as a gene and assumed ghost and desert were just abbreviations of desert ghost. I did not realize Desert, Ghost, and Desert Ghost were 3 separate genes. I'm glad I asked the question and you corrected my mistake otherwise I would be missing out on some pretty amazing combos.
    Don't feel bad- this stuff makes my head spin & I stay completely out of BP morph questions. But we're blessed here with some very experienced breeders whose expertise is much appreciated.
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