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    The tank should balance itself out eventually. I just need to tend it until it finds that balance.

    I think the clowns will do fine so long as I don't mess up copper dosing once I finish the round of General Cure that I have added. Dosing both at the same time would be a toxic mix so I need to do a couple good large water changes after general cure. The clown showing infection has not reached a distressed state. Both are still eating and swimming fine. I think it has ich but I talked to some reefers and they don't think it's a protozoan infection but didn't have any answers. I suspected something was off 2 weeks ago when I saw white dots on the fins but that can sometimes be a broken fin ray.

    The image quality is really poor. There are a lot more spots that either look like they are under the scales, attached, or bumps...hard to tell.


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    Re: Fish/Invert only Saltwater

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityblood View Post
    I think it has ich but I talked to some reefers and they don't think it's a protozoan infection but didn't have any answers. I suspected something was off 2 weeks ago when I saw white dots on the fins but that can sometimes be a broken fin ray.

    The image quality is really poor. There are a lot more spots that either look like they are under the scales, attached, or bumps...hard to tell.
    I hate that you're having to deal with an outbreak of anything, but I'm with you on suspecting ich. I know it's not the only thing that causes white dots, but it's definitely the most common. I've never tried my hand at salt water, but at least on the fresh water side API Ich Cure has has been my go to for a few years. I hope that it's just ich because in my experience it's been relatively easy to treat. Regardless, good luck and keep us posted!

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    Re: Fish/Invert only Saltwater

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    I hate that you're having to deal with an outbreak of anything, but I'm with you on suspecting ich. I know it's not the only thing that causes white dots, but it's definitely the most common. I've never tried my hand at salt water, but at least on the fresh water side API Ich Cure has has been my go to for a few years. I hope that it's just ich because in my experience it's been relatively easy to treat. Regardless, good luck and keep us posted!
    It's not ideal but I was expect setbacks to happen that I was going to have to push through to have a successful tank.

    General Cure is one of API's ich treatments. It's for freshwater use, too. Fresh and saltwater care aren't much different when its not a planted/reef tank. All the same meds work between them.

    I've been reading that, though it drops the ich off the fish, it can still be in the fish's gills and the ich is still present in the water. If the fish's immune system ever weakens they will be re-infected. The current practice to completely get rid of ich is to let the main tank go fallow for 3 months to disrupt the ich life cycle (no fish host, ich dies off). And do therapeutic copper dosing to eradicate all ich from the quarantine tank. API gets it off the fish then copper kills the ich in the water and 'shields' the fish from reinfection while it works to kill it all off. So long as I don't under dose or add the fish back too soon, I should never see ich again. I'll try this and see if it works.

    Copper will kill inverts and leech into rock so it shouldn't be used in the main tank.

    The clown improved overnight. Almost all of the white crud has fallen off it. I'm going to wait another day and start doing big water changes for 2-3 days to get rid of the General Cure. Then I'll start a copper treatment.
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    The clownfish have been in quarantine for 3 weeks and have gone through 2 weeks of general cure dosing. The one that was infected (bottom) has gained a lot of its color back after the treatment, though it looks like it has some scars from the ordeal. I haven't seen any re-infection in a week. They'll still be in there for a good while to try and let whatever it was die off in the main tank and observe to make sure it doesn't come back.



    During the water change on the main tank I took the live rock out to scrub off some hair algae and found a big ol sponge growing underneath it. Kind a neat and gross looking.






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    Well. Everything seemed to be going well and I was going to move the fish back into the main tank in a couple weeks...but I had a quarantine tank disaster. The tank started a new cycle and both clowns died overnight. I did a 50% water change, and though it happened a week ago, the tank is still showing ammonia and nitrites. I've started dosing bottled bacteria to see if it does anything to stabilize the cycle. There was no overfeeding, the water was changed regularly, and the tank had been stable for over a month with media pre-seeded from the main tank. I talked to the people at the fish store and they don't understand either. They called it a freak accident. It was upsetting to lose both fish but I'm going to try to stabilize this tank and try again.

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    Re: Fish/Invert only Saltwater

    I am sorry Trinityblood. That's a real shame. It's tough keeping tanks and things happen. It does sound like a freak thing and I wouldn't be kicking yourself at all.

    Really sorry for the loss of your fish. Keep your chin up.

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    Re: Fish/Invert only Saltwater

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    I am sorry Trinityblood. That's a real shame. It's tough keeping tanks and things happen. It does sound like a freak thing and I wouldn't be kicking yourself at all.

    Really sorry for the loss of your fish. Keep your chin up.
    Thanks. I'm really not sure what happened and I'm still trying to figure it out. Their deaths were two days after a routine water change and there were no meds in the tank. I can only guess the beneficial bacteria died off for some reason. It's strange that there's still ammonia + nitrites a week later. I want to wait for it to be ammonia free for a week before I try again. I've dropped some food in the tank and I'm letting the bacteria eat that. I suppose I can see this as a time to rethink my stocking. I will still be getting a clownfish for sure.

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