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    Please critique?

    Critique? http://imgur.com/a/sDuhnWi


    He is only 61.6 grams, maybe 10 inches long, very shy. This is a 20L for the next few months. Hot side is 90 and the warm is 80, humidity is at 60% steady. Foil tape on the mesh lid to retain humidity, 6-12 square inch for him to get proper air flow. He also has an under tank heater I wont use til I buy a thermostat tomorrow, but I was wondering if I'd need one with this setup/these temperatures. There is also a soaking/drinking bowl on cool side.


    Here's the shy beeboo, Raja: http://imgur.com/a/I1P8Zcr


    Also, do red lights cause stress? I was just told this.

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    Re: Please critique?

    That is a great looking snake!

    The prominent features in any enclosure to me are: Water bowl and hide(s). Everything else is clutter and decoration. Whether or not the cage looks good to us: The real test will be if your ball python likes it and eats consistently.

    I know you are doing the 'gradient' thing. Not my favorite method--since the water bowl can either be on the 'hot' or 'cold' side or precariously placed in between...


    If your ambient is 90F on one side (imo) that is too hot. 90F should be the belly hot spot created by your heat pad not the air temperature. I personally would not go over 85F for ambient. Smaller ball pythons tend to be much more forgiving of higher temperature imbalances...so no big deal atm. You asked if you need a heat pad? If you use a surface temp gun and the bottom of your 'warm' side is at least 85: I would say no...it would be nice though. I keep ambient in my collection at 80F: so I have heat pads on every one of my ball python enclosures with a hot spot calibrated to 90F. In the summer when the temp. goes up to 85-88 in my snake rooms: I turn off my heating mats.

    I see that you are using those plastic gauges to measure temp/humidity in the enclosure...those are wildly inaccurate. I would recommend finding a digital equivalent and as mentioned previously a surface temp gun for contact temperatures.


    I didn't see any pictured, but, hopefully you are using locks for the top of the cage.


    Last thing, I noticed that you have a Croton (plant) in a pot---these require high light in a terrarium setting: I would take it out. If there are any other live plants in the enclosure I would be wary of them surviving close quarters with a ball python-these snakes are quite strong and can easily overturn them.


    Note: I like the sticker.

    As for red lights: I know they can see them. I suspect the snake would prefer a ceramic heat emitter with no light output.
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    Re: Please critique?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post

    I see that you are using those plastic gauges to measure temp/humidity in the enclosure...those are wildly inaccurate. I would recommend finding a digital equivalent and as mentioned previously a surface temp gun for contact temperatures.

    I'm gonna be ordering a temp gun (was hoping to find one in a physical store but nowhere seems to carry them or I just don't know where to look), but I do have a thermostat and just a quick question, should I be worried if the thermostat is reading the same temp as the the analog?

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    Re: Please critique?

    Quote Originally Posted by nico420 View Post
    I'm gonna be ordering a temp gun (was hoping to find one in a physical store but nowhere seems to carry them or I just don't know where to look), but I do have a thermostat and just a quick question, should I be worried if the thermostat is reading the same temp as the the analog?
    Temp Gun: https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Lase.../dp/B00DMI632G

    If your thermostat gives you a digital reading and the analog matches...then consider yourself lucky for the moment. I would still get a backup digital thermometer to cross-check your thermostat...if one or the other malfunctions: you will want to know it.
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    Re: Please critique?

    I forgot to thank you for all your help!

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    Please critique?

    Quote Originally Posted by nico420 View Post
    I'm gonna be ordering a temp gun (was hoping to find one in a physical store but nowhere seems to carry them or I just don't know where to look), but I do have a thermostat and just a quick question, should I be worried if the thermostat is reading the same temp as the the analog?
    Yes the stat temps are just an approximate guideline .. you then adjust the stat when you know the proper temps ( using a decent thermometer or temp gun ) .

    So your actual temps could be completely different to what those normally useless plastic dials say .

    I had acquired two a few years ago when I bought some second hand vivs .. when I compared them - side be side in exactly the same place there was a 20F difference !!

    They make equally useless hygrometers as well ... you may as well hang a pine cone up instead of of them !


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