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    62 years old? Wow

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    Wonder why they didnít experiment on the two Ďdeadí eggs rather than two of the healthy ones ?
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    Wow, Iím more amazed at the 62 years than the eggs.
    The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.

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    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    Iím still not convinced... unless they can prove it somehow.. blood tests ..

    Iím even wondering if itís a publicity stunt ... just to get more public awareness of the place ??

    Itís one thing laying a batch despite not being paired up ... then to be a reported 62 years old but to be both at the same time .. Iím not even sure Iíve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years never mind 62 ...



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    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Iím even wondering if itís a publicity stunt ... just to get more public awareness of the place ??
    I totally agree: this sounds sketchy on several levels...
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    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I totally agree: this sounds sketchy on several levels...
    Can they prove the age by blood tests ??


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    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    The Barkers mention record longevities in their most recent book and reference several ball pythons in their 50s as at least one over 60yrs which leads me to believe itís this animal.

    As for not being reproductive beyond 15yrs, thatís simply not true. I have a friend back home with an animal over 30yrs that still produces regularly, the founder animals to my line of Brisbane carpets produced in their late 20s/early 30s, relatives of my Argentine boa have produced into their 20s...

    I think the issue is that few people keep snakes alive past 15yrs and has little to do with the fecundity of the snakes themselves.


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    Re: 62 years old? Wow

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    As for not being reproductive beyond 15yrs, thatís simply not true.

    I think the issue is that few people keep snakes alive past 15yrs and has little to do with the fecundity of the snakes themselves.


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    I never stated it as a fact .. I simply said

    ďIím not even sure Iíve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years .. ď

    Which is true ...



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    62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I never stated it as a fact .. I simply said

    ďIím not even sure Iíve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years .. ď

    Which is true ...



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    My bad, didnít mean to come across as abrasive. I tried to edit my post but missed the 10min window.

    I agree reproduction at 62 is absolutely bonkers. As for not many reproducing beyond 15yrs, I think a lot of that has to do with the morph driven trends in breeding.

    A 15+yr old morph is just not up to speed with most peopleís projects or breeding goals anymore. Locality/species projects are different though. They can continue to be selectively bred for traits within the locality/species but ultimately they are what they are and are free from the morph craze to an extent.

    Recently saw a litter of Dumerils Boas produced from 34yr old parent animals. Bob Guerriere has Argentines producing into their 20s. Paul Harris saved Brisbane Coastal carpets from becoming non existent in the hobby by breeding his pair at 25-30yrs old.

    The big reason I think is that a 10-15yr old royal python generally has lost market relevance at that age and as such arenít bred often.

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