Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 3,072

0 members and 3,072 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 6,337, 01-24-2020 at 04:30 AM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,031
Threads: 248,489
Posts: 2,568,446
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, isismomma
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
  1. #1
    BPnet Veteran RickyNY's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-11-2017
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    1,448
    Thanks
    1,325
    Thanked 1,335 Times in 775 Posts
    Images: 7
    1.0 Freddy -Python Regius
    1.0
    Darby -Boa Imperator
    1.0
    Kenny -Morelia Bredli
    0.1
    La Reina -Lampropeltis Californiae
    1.0 Luciano -Drymarchon Melanurus Unicolor
    0.1 Macarena -Heterodon Nasicus Nasicus
    1.0 Hugo -Morelia Spilota Mcdowelli


    Morelia Mafia For Life

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RickyNY For This Useful Post:

    jmcrook (09-11-2020),Reinz (09-12-2020)

  3. #2
    Bogertophis's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-28-2018
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    20,183
    Thanks
    28,085
    Thanked 19,740 Times in 11,797 Posts
    Last edited by Bogertophis; 09-11-2020 at 02:32 PM.
    Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.
    Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Bogertophis For This Useful Post:

    RickyNY (09-12-2020)

  5. #3
    BPnet Royalty Zincubus's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-22-2011
    Posts
    6,948
    Thanks
    2,510
    Thanked 4,897 Times in 2,992 Posts

    62 years old? Wow

    ....

    Wonder why they didn’t experiment on the two ‘dead’ eggs rather than two of the healthy ones ?
    Last edited by Zincubus; 09-12-2020 at 03:44 AM.




  6. #4
    BPnet Lifer Reinz's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-05-2013
    Location
    East TX
    Posts
    8,019
    Thanks
    5,613
    Thanked 4,602 Times in 3,139 Posts
    Images: 9
    Wow, I’m more amazed at the 62 years than the eggs.
    The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.

    1.2 Coastal Carpet Pythons
    Mack The Knife, 2013
    Lizzy, 2010
    Etta, 2013
    1.1 Jungle Carpet Pythons
    Esmarelda , 2014
    Sundance, 2012
    2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
    0.1 Normal Ball Python, Elvira, 2001
    0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017

    Please excuse the spelling in my posts. Auto-Correct is my worst enema.

  7. #5
    BPnet Royalty Zincubus's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-22-2011
    Posts
    6,948
    Thanks
    2,510
    Thanked 4,897 Times in 2,992 Posts

    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    I’m still not convinced... unless they can prove it somehow.. blood tests ..

    I’m even wondering if it’s a publicity stunt ... just to get more public awareness of the place ??

    It’s one thing laying a batch despite not being paired up ... then to be a reported 62 years old but to be both at the same time .. I’m not even sure I’ve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years never mind 62 ...



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro




  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Zincubus For This Useful Post:

    Lord Sorril (09-13-2020)

  9. #6
    BPnet Senior Member Lord Sorril's Avatar
    Join Date
    03-05-2018
    Location
    Massachusetts - USA
    Posts
    1,455
    Thanks
    622
    Thanked 3,197 Times in 1,091 Posts
    Images: 84

    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I’m even wondering if it’s a publicity stunt ... just to get more public awareness of the place ??
    I totally agree: this sounds sketchy on several levels...
    *.* TNTC

  10. #7
    BPnet Royalty Zincubus's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-22-2011
    Posts
    6,948
    Thanks
    2,510
    Thanked 4,897 Times in 2,992 Posts

    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I totally agree: this sounds sketchy on several levels...
    Can they prove the age by blood tests ??


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro




  11. #8
    BPnet Senior Member jmcrook's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-05-2016
    Location
    Mississippi
    Posts
    3,640
    Thanks
    7,844
    Thanked 7,195 Times in 2,638 Posts
    Images: 13

    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    The Barkers mention record longevities in their most recent book and reference several ball pythons in their 50s as at least one over 60yrs which leads me to believe it’s this animal.

    As for not being reproductive beyond 15yrs, that’s simply not true. I have a friend back home with an animal over 30yrs that still produces regularly, the founder animals to my line of Brisbane carpets produced in their late 20s/early 30s, relatives of my Argentine boa have produced into their 20s...

    I think the issue is that few people keep snakes alive past 15yrs and has little to do with the fecundity of the snakes themselves.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to jmcrook For This Useful Post:

    GoingPostal (09-13-2020)

  13. #9
    BPnet Royalty Zincubus's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-22-2011
    Posts
    6,948
    Thanks
    2,510
    Thanked 4,897 Times in 2,992 Posts

    Re: 62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post

    As for not being reproductive beyond 15yrs, that’s simply not true.

    I think the issue is that few people keep snakes alive past 15yrs and has little to do with the fecundity of the snakes themselves.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    I never stated it as a fact .. I simply said

    “I’m not even sure I’ve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years .. “

    Which is true ...



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro




  14. #10
    BPnet Senior Member jmcrook's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-05-2016
    Location
    Mississippi
    Posts
    3,640
    Thanks
    7,844
    Thanked 7,195 Times in 2,638 Posts
    Images: 13

    62 years old? Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I never stated it as a fact .. I simply said

    “I’m not even sure I’ve heard of too many laying batches after 15 years .. “

    Which is true ...



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    My bad, didn’t mean to come across as abrasive. I tried to edit my post but missed the 10min window.

    I agree reproduction at 62 is absolutely bonkers. As for not many reproducing beyond 15yrs, I think a lot of that has to do with the morph driven trends in breeding.

    A 15+yr old morph is just not up to speed with most people’s projects or breeding goals anymore. Locality/species projects are different though. They can continue to be selectively bred for traits within the locality/species but ultimately they are what they are and are free from the morph craze to an extent.

    Recently saw a litter of Dumerils Boas produced from 34yr old parent animals. Bob Guerriere has Argentines producing into their 20s. Paul Harris saved Brisbane Coastal carpets from becoming non existent in the hobby by breeding his pair at 25-30yrs old.

    The big reason I think is that a 10-15yr old royal python generally has lost market relevance at that age and as such aren’t bred often.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Last edited by jmcrook; 09-13-2020 at 09:54 AM.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1