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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Quote Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    Cut the feet/toes/nails off before you thaw. Your not the first an won't be the last to do it.

    Glad he's better.

    Good luck!

    I never thought something like this could happen.
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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

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    I never thought something like this could happen.

    I was bit by a frozen rat yesterday. Stucker had his mouth open an a tooth opened my hand up when I pulled it out of the bag. The 8yo was screaming your bleeding yelling for mom. It just gave that rat to the barn cat. If a tooth was that sharp on my rough hand the snakes inside is much softer. Yes, thawed out the mouth should have closed, it's just not worth the chance. Now, I'll look before I pull one out. I guess if it's rough I can file it or cut it in the future.

    I have cut frozen rabbits toenails before. As they looked like two inch knives.

    If it could happen it will sooner or later.

    Our pets are still safer then their wild cousins.


    Good luck!

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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Quote Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    I have cut frozen rabbits toenails before. As they looked like two inch knives.
    Rabbit claws are very sharp. I've been scratched a lot moving them around in the chest freezer.

    I've cut adult chicken beaks and claws from f/t feeders as they can also do some damage.

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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Hi, just an update on Sawyer. He seems to have healed from his dilema. I can still see a bit on a lump sometimes though.

    Lately, I've been seeing like a smear of something on the glass of his tank. Its always dry when i find it though. Could this be the start of an RI?? I checked him over - no mucous on his mouth. I don't know what else it could be.
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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Glad to hear he's doing well again.

    As for the smears, my suriname male windshield wipes the glass doors all the time and leaves all kinds of smears, streaks, smudges, etc. They do drool sometimes when smashing their faces into things. Probably nothing to worry about if he's not showing any other RI symptoms.

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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Oh, that is great news. I was worried. I checked his mouth but didn't see any drool at all on him.

    I will keep an eye on him. He is in the same cage with the same heat/humidity I've always kept him at - I was wondering why all of a sudden he would get an RI.

    thank you
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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Here is a picture of the glass from his cage. Can anyone tell me if I should be concerned or is this nothing

    He looks and acts fine. No drool or bubbles by his mouth



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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    Quote Originally Posted by L.West View Post
    Here is a picture of the glass from his cage. Can anyone tell me if I should be concerned or is this nothing

    He looks and acts fine. No drool or bubbles by his mouth



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    It's possible he got an RI IF conditions were bad AND/OR he was stressed from treating the lump.

    I doubt it. It sounds like your conditions are good.

    You also list no other symptoms of RI.

    I dealt with a brutal RI with Yafe, my Carpet Python, when he was young and fed ex lost his package getting him to me. Within a day of hearing a few pops, he had mucus coming out of his nose, wheezing, popping, etc. He was weak as well.

    If your guy seems normal otherwise, I wouldn't sweat it. Also, is he eating? If he eats, that's another sign he likely doesn't have an RI.

    My BP whistled once and I saw smears in the tank. I freaked. Took her in for blood work and everything. She ended up being 100% fine and I overreacted. It was some debris or stuck shed in her nose that she was trying to get out.

    Finally, as mentioned, boas like to window wash while waiting or hoping for food.

    If it gets worse, let us know. There are specific things that need to be done to properly diagnose and treat RI's that many vets don't do.

    I am thinking you are just worried about him because of what you just dealt with him and are being hyper-vigilant.

    Good luck and keep us posted.

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    Re: Panamanian Hypo Boa with a lump

    I had him out of his cage on Sunday to check on him. I held his head to my ear to listen. All I heard was the occasional puff of air that they often do but no pops or whistles.

    He was put thru alot of disruption going back and forth to the vet for his shots - so I hope he didn't get too stressed out.

    He is eating fine. He's only ate once since the procedure since I only feed him once a month. He gets a medium rat f/t.

    He is in a API 4ft cage with an RHP. Temps are 79 cool side and 89/90 hot side. Humidity is kept at 60-65% in the winter months.

    Let me know what I should be listening for or if I need to change something.

    Thank you so much.
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