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    Morph ID: Killer Bee het. Clown x Killer Enchi Butter Clown -> white snakes?!

    Hi, could you help me to id hatchlings from Killer Bee het. Clown x Killer Enchi Butter Clown pairing?
    I have a problem with 2 of them, which are completely white. Sorry for quality, but I have no idea how could they be completely white and can`t wait to figure this out.
    7 eggs, 2 died in eggs, 5 alive.

    Mother:

    https://zapodaj.net/b5ef758e50e70.jpg.html

    Father:
    https://zapodaj.net/139e1b4dd4fd7.jpg.html

    Dead ones:
    https://zapodaj.net/b3b010a8083af.jpg.html

    #1:
    https://zapodaj.net/11ee20cf8c86b.jpg.html

    #2:
    https://zapodaj.net/6b27e9a65586a.jpg.html

    #3:
    https://zapodaj.net/b20f4d05100a2.jpg.html

    #4:
    https://zapodaj.net/82f4150726751.jpg.html

    #5:
    https://zapodaj.net/d266b70ecd592.jpg.html


    Sorry for links. Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Morph ID: Killer Bee het. Clown x Killer Enchi Butter Clown -> white snakes?!

    Hi,

    Replys to pics in quoted post in red.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowby View Post
    Hi, could you help me to id hatchlings from Killer Bee het. Clown x Killer Enchi Butter Clown pairing?
    I have a problem with 2 of them, which are completely white. Sorry for quality, but I have no idea how could they be completely white and can`t wait to figure this out.
    7 eggs, 2 died in eggs, 5 alive.

    Mother:

    https://zapodaj.net/b5ef758e50e70.jpg.html Is there a possibility of mojave in her?

    Father:
    https://zapodaj.net/139e1b4dd4fd7.jpg.html

    Dead ones:
    https://zapodaj.net/b3b010a8083af.jpg.html
    There seems to be a lot of colour there and the eys do look darkish. So I'm saying not BlueEL's. Could these be the elusive super spider? { genuine question folks - I've never seen any}

    #1:
    https://zapodaj.net/11ee20cf8c86b.jpg.html
    Gorgeous.

    #2:
    https://zapodaj.net/6b27e9a65586a.jpg.html
    Again darkish eyes and rising colour up the sides - no clue.

    #3:
    https://zapodaj.net/b20f4d05100a2.jpg.html
    A lot lighter looking eyes - is that just the angle? Possible BlueEL?

    #4:
    https://zapodaj.net/82f4150726751.jpg.html
    Honestly no clue - clown something??

    #5:
    https://zapodaj.net/d266b70ecd592.jpg.html
    Same as last one?


    Sorry for links. Thanks in advance.
    Sorry I can't be any help but I would be facinated to find out as well!


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    Re: Morph ID: Killer Bee het. Clown x Killer Enchi Butter Clown -> white snakes?!

    I made new photos in black light. Both of them look quite similar (it was hard to capture pattern of both snakes at the same time).

    Could it be that the white one`s are: Super Pastel Enchi Spider Butter Clowns and the two that died in eggs were Super Pastel Spider Enchi Clowns?
    I can`t see any signs of Butter in mother, Fire or Mojave in both of parents, how come are the hatchlings completely white?

    Thanks for help.









    Last edited by snowby; 07-11-2020 at 03:53 AM.

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    Re: Morph ID: Killer Bee het. Clown x Killer Enchi Butter Clown -> white snakes?!

    I would say that maybe your bee has another BEL complex in it that hit
    Now your breeding projects have a whole new lvl
    lucky you to get that..& you now proved out that your Bee can produce bel’s


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